what is salient identity?


seth 2015-09-29 08:38:51 18783
source: mark

I'm not a Republican

 I think it is the thoughts that resonate in a network that determines its salient identity. I'm not catholic either, but sometimes Pope Francis's thoughts resonate with me.  I definitely am not a Rush Limbaugh-ite, his thoughts resonate in opposition to mine.   I'll bet he hates the Pope.

I used to hate Boener, everything he said made a plunk in my mind.  Now after hearing him speak after his resignation, i kind of like him.


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Seth says
IamanI 2015-09-29 09:12:23 18870
seth 2015-09-29 09:08:46 18870
IamanI 2015-09-29 08:57:30 18870
thoughts resonating in a network are like words & vegetables resonating in a salad. They may or not be edible or nutritious.

well yes thinking it  may, or may not, be healthy for the thing thinking them ... nonetheless it keeps doing it  ... the people in the network keep thinking the same thought ... time and again.  Other networks will just reject the thought, ignore it, or barf on it.  Point being that we can identify the network but the thoughts that resonate in it.  This method actually has predictive value.
Predictions may or not be edible or nutritious given all the bad ones on  change. Networks don't think. People think.The rest is communication. Anthropomorphism works in mysterious ways.


you are a network and you think, and you are a people.  on the larger scale people form networks.  their thoughts are repeated thought the networks in which they interact. 

Seth says
when we say a person is a network, we are just realizing that a person is composed of a vast array of interacting processes that are linked together in structure that can be modeled by the mathematical structure termed "networks".   Networks are studies under the name "discrete mathematics" i think.  if you care, i will find you some specific mathematical references.

Seth says
IamanI 2015-09-30 07:16:39 18870
IamanI 2015-09-30 07:13:31 18870
seth 2015-09-30 01:06:57 18870
OMG ... it just dawned on me what you might be doing here.  Seems like you are trying to make me responsible for your jealousy.  Is that it?
What should I be jealous of?
No cheese here.

Well no cheese for me either, didn't feel good when i got the idea ... i only published it for its explanatory value of trying to figure out what you call the " 'I'm RIGHT' side of the RWG" about which i remain baffled.

Going after cheese is the hazard of following the RWG habit anyway ... unless, of course, the cheese is some kind of mutual understanding. 

... and, yes,  that is just the way things fit together over here ... you being over there, in a different salient identity, will see things quite differently.  I am slowly learning how to respect that. ... but no problem really, once what is happening is grocked.

Seth says
IamanI 2015-09-29 16:38:21 18870
seth 2015-09-29 09:52:00 18870
IamanI 2015-09-29 09:36:37 18870
seth 2015-09-29 09:30:14 18870
source: mark

Yep - anthropomorphism- I am not in a network the network exists outside of me. We of course are disagreeable about that.

... the processes inside you network together ... and you network with the processes outside of you.  there should be no disagreement about that. 
I AM NOT A NETWORK AT ALL!

Well do you deny that there are processes inside you that interact with each other?
I am an organic creature not a machine built from blueprints & flow charts. Everything you imply is just your analysis after the fact & squirt.


Lots of things in nature, that existed way before man made machines, are networks.  This has nothing to do with a man being a machine ... that is just something to distract you from understanding what i am saing.  This  is like saying your head is oval,  and an egg is oval too.  Lots of natural things are networks, and some artificial ones are too.

Seth says
IamanI 2015-09-30 09:10:28 18870
seth 2015-09-30 08:44:34 18870
IamanI 2015-09-30 07:16:16 18870
seth 2015-09-30 00:54:55 18870
source: mark

Keep it going .  THis is what I call the "I'm RIGHT" side of the RWG. Enjoy the egoo.

Well i do trip on writing true sentences ... it is a pride.  But that really has nothing to do with your ego or an intended effect upon you.  I get just about the same good feeling when i hear you write a true sentence too.  No bad egooey involved on this side ... maybe is just beauty in your eyes over there.   ... eh? 
Sometimes you go down a train of thought like a rat in a maze that I have already been down & know there is no cheese down there.  This is one of them. Enjoy the exercise though.



it's a different maze
So you say - still no cheese.

Well logically, if you follow a maze and come up with one result, i follow a maze and end up with another, it could be that they are different mazes ... or it could be that it is the same maze and you are just following it differently.   But if you, and how you follow the maze, are the maze, then that would amount to the same thing.

Fact is: your results and my results keep coming up radically different.   Perhaps we could just go with that simple fact, and what it logically implies ... no other model need be used.

IamanI says
seth 2015-09-30 10:06:14 18870
IamanI 2015-09-30 09:10:28 18870
seth 2015-09-30 08:44:34 18870
IamanI 2015-09-30 07:16:16 18870
seth 2015-09-30 00:54:55 18870
source: mark

Keep it going .  THis is what I call the "I'm RIGHT" side of the RWG. Enjoy the egoo.

Well i do trip on writing true sentences ... it is a pride.  But that really has nothing to do with your ego or an intended effect upon you.  I get just about the same good feeling when i hear you write a true sentence too.  No bad egooey involved on this side ... maybe is just beauty in your eyes over there.   ... eh? 
Sometimes you go down a train of thought like a rat in a maze that I have already been down & know there is no cheese down there.  This is one of them. Enjoy the exercise though.



it's a different maze
So you say - still no cheese.

Well logically, if you follow a maze and come up with one result, i follow a maze and end up with another, it could be that they are different mazes ... or it could be that it is the same maze and you are just following it differently.   But if you, and how you follow the maze, are the maze, then that would amount to the same thing.

Fact is: your results and my results keep coming up radically different.   Perhaps we could just go with that simple fact, and what it logically implies ... no other model need be used.
The above is content free (arguing about arguing) .  I explained more in my last post on 1722 .


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