how to use parallel realities - shift into an alternate universe! - youtube



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Perhaps the most articulate description of parallel universes i have heard.  I was struck with his clarity, energy, and youth.  Yet I personally remain unconvinced.

a bit of an aside here about the relationship between self and other …

objective reality is frequently glimpsed
while not obsessing about creating your own

-- Bozo Faust 
 
here are the beliefs that i cannot ignore ...
  1. a story of what happens is not the same thing as what happens.
  2. our attention is always in one story while what happens, happens. 
  3. there is no way to change what happens to a happening for which what is happening now is not a prerequisite.
given those, most of the Bentinho's assertions melt into just a glorious story.

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Seth says
RoundTuit 2015-11-02 09:18:39 18996
seth 2015-11-02 08:12:34 18996
RoundTuit 2015-11-01 11:40:30 18996
Youtube too slow to listen to. I skipped around & the pace never seemed to change. NLP would say he is kinesthetic.
Well Bentinho Massaro's presentation was the first time i heard parallel universes well articulated.  I was struck by his youth and clarity.   It's interesting to tease out the assumptions ... those things about it that must be taken on faith and cannot be verified ... and to realize what those particular assumptions promote.  To me it's another story, just like this one ... if it leads a person to be better in their nows, who am i to rag on it. 
Maybe you could pixelate your RWG for the masses & get them to believe because they saw it on facebook or fbi, but not me. I have always been able to tell the difference between stories & what's so. Enjoy the buzzzzzzz.


... or so it seems from inside you.  From out here it looks like you go for stories just like the rest of us. 

Seth says
just for the record ...


the more pertinent pixels that are experienced, the harder it is to make it a shuttle rather than a natural bird.

Mark de LA says
choy 2015-11-01 07:45:28 18996
Then too, there is the alternate reality world of selfies & facebook & twitterings  & the imagination of the M$M to play with already.


& ...
https://goo.gl/nNI6NR

Seth says
Iamnai 2015-11-06 07:05:40 18996

Astral projection & lucid dreaming can lead you to believe you are in a parallel universe. Indeed if there were those who actually visited "better ones" there would probably be people disappearing rather regularly.  Notice d'A keeps returning.

I am not so very sure that people in one reality could detect movement of another person within theirs ... because their consciousness is private to them.  That is also consistent with tripping within one's imagination (astral projection or lucid dreaming).  Shared happenings are, as far as i know, the only tests that can be performed. 

Seth says
RoundTuit 2015-11-01 11:40:30 18996
Youtube too slow to listen to. I skipped around & the pace never seemed to change. NLP would say he is kinesthetic.
Well Bentinho Massaro's presentation was the first time i heard parallel universes well articulated.  I was struck by his youth and clarity.   It's interesting to tease out the assumptions ... those things about it that must be taken on faith and cannot be verified ... and to realize what those particular assumptions promote.  To me it's another story, just like this one ... if it leads a person to be better in their nows, who am i to rag on it. 

Seth says
choy 2015-11-01 09:30:48 18996
Contrary to Internet World - out here pixels are only in there.


hmmm ... poetically speaking i presume.

Seth says
seth 2015-11-02 09:22:03 18996
RoundTuit 2015-11-02 09:18:39 18996
seth 2015-11-02 08:12:34 18996
RoundTuit 2015-11-01 11:40:30 18996
Youtube too slow to listen to. I skipped around & the pace never seemed to change. NLP would say he is kinesthetic.
Well Bentinho Massaro's presentation was the first time i heard parallel universes well articulated.  I was struck by his youth and clarity.   It's interesting to tease out the assumptions ... those things about it that must be taken on faith and cannot be verified ... and to realize what those particular assumptions promote.  To me it's another story, just like this one ... if it leads a person to be better in their nows, who am i to rag on it. 
Maybe you could pixelate your RWG for the masses & get them to believe because they saw it on facebook or fbi, but not me. I have always been able to tell the difference between stories & what's so. Enjoy the buzzzzzzz.


... or so it seems from inside you.  From out here it looks like you go for stories just like the rest of us. 

incidentally, when it comes to "what is so" seems like we are all pretty good at knowing it ... especially for stuff like "the cat is on the mat" kind of propositions ... excepting senior moments of course.   it is the higher level Gestalts where story-o/r-what-is-so starts to be unknown.   there people turn either inside where their own ego is King ... or they sensitize to the outside which is domain of vast others.   i am still writing that story.  but not with mirrors.  that seems to be your thingey.

Seth says
apparently dialogue continued here ...

source: Seth Russell Well objective reality is frequently glimpsed while not obsessing about writing your own ... LOL
...



Mark de LA says
While I may invest 1 hour & 48 minutes of my reality to look at his I wonder if it is worth it given that the challenge is usually in the opposite direction; i.e. to get out of trance & wake up rather than go deeper asleep & have more & different dreams. It may be fun though. I am curious what you found in it of value. Nuthouses are full of people in alternate (parallel) realities.


Seth says
seth 2015-11-02 08:17:34 18996
choy 2015-11-01 09:30:48 18996
Contrary to Internet World - out here pixels are only in there.


hmmm ... poetically speaking i presume.

incidentally observing something at a higher resolution is an excellent way to get closer to what is so.  The  bird-or-shuttle pictures are an excellent example.  Another example is photographs of the man in the moon :  he appears at low resolution but not at high.  It would be hard for me to detract from that and put on an honest face.

Seth says
choy 2015-11-02 14:44:55 18996
seth 2015-11-02 14:27:40 18996
choy 2015-11-02 14:16:20 18996
seth 2015-11-02 13:25:21 18996
it's interesting to note that almost all stories of Nirvana, Heaven, Initiation, Parallel realities, Direct Perception, etc etc, promise ways out of the human predicament.  But me,  i like the human predicament itself ... so no trick necessary to get out of it ... just a mastery of the media. 
 
Nice munge ... the human predicament is the selfie ... how are you going to get out of that?


I'm not .   

Maybe you just read the first sentence, eh?   I said i am not trying to get out of the human predicament.

Anyway self is just part of the human predicament ... not really a biggy for me ... but you won't be believing that.
But, the Media IS the selfie!

you keep reading half of what i write, and then laughing about the part you missed.

Certainly myself is part of what i am molding here ... but if that were all, then this drama would be pretty boring.   I do have some small effect on others ... exclusive of those staring in mirrors, of course.  

Seth says
Magor 2015-11-04 09:13:04 18996
seth 2015-11-04 08:01:20 18996
anyway here are the beliefs that i cannot ignore ...
  1. a story of what happens is not the same thing as what happens.
  2. our consciousness is always in one story while what happens, happens. 
  3. there is no way to move what happens to a happening for which what is happening now is not a prerequisite.

given those, most of the Bentinho's assertions melt into just a glorious story.

I strongly disagree with #2 & #3 is gibberish to me.

Well #3 was hard to write and can certainly be improved ... it is just a logical formula when correctly written.  Here is perhaps a better representation of that  formula:  there is no way to change what will happen next, to something that the current now is not a prerequisite

a "prerequisite" is "a thing that is required as a prior condition for something else to happen or exist".  For example: for the ball to fall to the floor,  a requirement is that the restraints holding it above the floor are removed. 

In other words, your current now must have all the prerequisites for your next now.  Else you deny #3.   Someone who believes in freely navigating within parallel universes must deny that the current now is a prerequisite of the next one.

I had  tried to eliminate the natural language word "consciousness" from my presentation here because i pretty much know that it means something different to you than it does to me.  Yet our notions of what is being bandies around as "consciousness" is intrinsically connected to this parallel universe model.   So it does not surprise me that you would not believe in #1 and #2 ... but if you are willing, i am sure that we could arrive at wording to which both of us would assent ... after all, this is just math ... just recognizing the illative force in the edges of our mutual perdicament.


Seth says
source: mark

Well my perception/consciousness tells me that it is always NOW!  You are talking about a NOW in the context of time like a little infinitesimal piece of a continuous time line. PR sticks with NOW where time is an abstraction - past is a piece of mind called memory (low fidelity & mungeable at best) & future is a piece of mind that is made up of imagination.  As imagination goes you can have parallel universes or infinite pussy or whatever. The logical bent you are trying to follow also has a discontinuous moment which dependis on no precedence or self-creation called the Big Bang, which I like to think of as the Great Fuck!

... well strangely enough  PR and even Bentinho and Nathan and even yours truly are telling the same story here even with those words of yours above.  Except perhaps the last part about the Great Fuck ... i don't personally talk about that, and cannot imagine how it would follow from anything that i have said ... so maybe the great fuck could be dealt with separately in one of your items.

This common story starts with recognizing that there is a world of possibilities within which next-next-next sequence restraints do not apply ... in which anything goes, and there are none of the naive restraints that we learned while growing up.  This world can become most important and real to an individual and they see all that happens from its perspective.  What actually happens becomes like a flat land to that explosion of possibility.  I like to call that greater land "the spiritual world" or "imagination" or "story". 


Seth says
incidentally you cannot speed read through this material and then expect to contribute anything pertinent or even interesting about it. 

My point in writing it is to tease out the assumptions that underlie  effectively navigating consciousness freely in parallel universes ... or alternatively the ones which prevent such a belief.  In other words, what are the salient edges of the situation. 

It is obvious that one can imagine such a navigation and tell a story about it ... so the first thing is to distinguish between imagination and what actually happens. 

Any further off topic comments will be deleted. 

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