wiki references to empty rooms

The wish is that buttons appear in empty rooms indicating that if one clicks on the button one will be on the add screen ready to make a button to fill that room.
  1. tag rooms - just go to add, the default tags should take care of it see Hanging Out in Tag Rooms
  2. title rooms - put the title from the url into the add title box
  3. group rooms - ?
Some background:
Mark 2005-11-06 11:47:48 1905
The only  bug I can find is that sleeve-job references don't give a user more clues as to why the room is empty.  That's more of a wish than a  bug & speaks to that empty room message as somewhat ergonometrically un-navigable.

... these "forward loking references into the future" are, of their nature, "un-navigatable".   These are like error code 404 on the web.  It goes to Tim Berners-lees's brilliance that he did not worry about the page not found "bug".   They are to be embraced and not feared. 
However it is a current bug that a reference to a deleted item dereference to a unrelated item see [title item reference goes astray on deleted item]

Yet the beet goes on ...

There should be clear distinction between ...
  1. landing on an empty tag, title, or group  room which is waiting to be filled; and
  2. landing on some  item that is yet to be wirtten, or
  3. landing on some item that was deleted, or
  4. landing on a private item.

Tags

  1. navigation
  2. empty rooms

Comments


Mark de LA says
Hmmm.... - the beets go on.....



Seth says
Mark 2005-11-06 13:48:13 1907
Wikis have a convention like CamelCase? to tell you something is to be created. The does NOT.
Well WikidPad which i used to use locally till i got fastblogit has a very irritating behavior in that it creates a frame whenever you use a camel case word, whether you ever intend that to be a frame or not.  These junk up the space. 

What wikis have you used where forward references are handeled better than they are here ?

Bear in mind that the possibility still exists for clicking on any empty room to create an item that by default is tagged into that room. 


Seth says
Mark 2005-11-06 12:23:13 1907
seth 2005-11-06 12:14:59 1907
Mark 2005-11-06 12:09:03 1907
I think a sleeve-job emotlet should be inserted before your so-called forward looking references just so that the unsuspecting user doesn't chase it.
... Shirley, you jest .   Do you actually expect the system to do retrievals for each reference to check it's viability prior to displaying it on a page ?
More like the author should have some consideration for his viewers.
Horseshit !  I point to the future all the time with the intention of those rooms being filled.  Many times i find them already filled.  Sometimes i go back and edit in the light of finding more precise references.  There is a long precedence of doing that in a wiki.  It is creative behavior rather than something to be shunned.

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-07 07:11:51 1907
Bear in mind that the possibility still exists for clicking on any empty room to create an item that by default is tagged into that room. 
Hmm... , was a bit confused by the temporality of the emphasized phrase in your statement. Wouldn't have bothered to try to test it had it been a bit more clear.
yeah .. well with these temporal shifts, one never knows

Seth says
Mark 2005-11-06 14:17:47 1907
Mark 2005-11-06 14:16:21 1907
source: Bear in mind that the possibility still exists for clicking on any empty room to create an item that by default is tagged into that room. 
Will have to test this out, nice to know.  So [stop and take a pee here: tag 1905] might work.
Don't think it works this way
Doah! it's a wish, not a bug.

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