Dialectics


 
 

I am in a box. 
Give me a new box.
I will add it to my box
to be in a bigger box.
 
-- Bozo Faust

the mind is a box ... so unless you have no mind, you are in a box.   How to get out of the box?   Well one way is to get rid of your mind.  Me, i go with what happens ... as close as i can get to it ... and in particular to those things that surprise me there for that is the new information to me.  .... and if you think about it with your mind, what happens is Zen ... all the way down

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Seth says
shared on facebook here, and tweeted here.

Seth says
IamanI 2015-12-05 09:50:42 19105
This is what happens when you perform your category error by arguing an analogy & metaphor.


mark, sometimes we understand things we don't know about, by comparison to other things that are similar in some aspects, which we do know about.   That is the correct use of metaphor and analogy.   It is not a category error ...it is a method of communication. 

Arguing the analogy is what you are doing ... talking about the aspects of the metaphor that do not apply. 

Seth says
choy 2015-12-05 09:29:46 19105
seth 2015-12-05 09:14:17 19105
incidentally, the mind is a box ... so unless you have no mind, you are in a box.   How to get out of the box?   Well one way is to get rid of your mind ... perhaps that Zen is PR's method.  But that is not my way.  Me, i go with what happens ... as close as i can get to it ... and in particular to those things that surprise me there for that is the new information to me.  .... and if you think about it with your mind, what happens is Zen ... all the way down
deframe ... MIND IS NOT A BOX ... It has no shape at all. Maybe for you it is a box all the way down. Perhaps the ??? you are stuck in is the Mind-Body duality - nothing new. Paradoxes & riddles continuously without end.


you are being tediously literal here with my metaphor.... er, arguing the metaphor, rather than what the metaphor is describing.  oh well, one way to be right, eh?

Yep i am fucking stuck in the duality that what i am aware of is a representation and not the happening itself ... you are too ... the point is that the way out of that is to go with what is happening ... for that is not in the box.   maybe, you missed that in your automatic process of making me wrong to your right, eh?  just possibly?

Seth says
does rwg when it is productive end up being just dialectics ?

Seth says
seth 2016-02-07 12:25:47 [item 19105#44885]
<div class="defaultFont" style="font: 100%/16px Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,Helve,sans-serif; text-align: right;"><small><em>&rarr; Bozo Faust</em></small></div>

inside of a block quote does not seem to work right.
dA 2016-02-07 12:28:22 [item 19105#44886]
That’s not valid html classes and style is not used in our html. Why are you trying to use that?
seth 2016-02-07 12:29:51 [item 19105#44887]
not me … the rte generated it.
dA 2016-02-07 12:31:12 [item 19105#44888]
I don’t know where or what you are referring to then. The quote in this thought looks fine. What quote where?
seth 2016-02-07 12:38:18 [item 19105#44889]
it shows correctly in the rte box but then my right justifying and sizing gets eliminated when displayed in the thought.  prolly just another case where you haven't gotten to syncing those styles yet .. but i can’t tell for sure because i have seen you do it.   when i get a moment i’ll duplicate it in a group where you can try it yourself.

new… and why it worked fine in thought 18028 yet not in this thought. 
 
nathan 2016-02-07 18:33:38 [item 19105#44891]
Don’t know. I can’t edit here without your permission so I can see what is going on in the editor.
I you want me to check it out here I can look up your password and do it … don’t need you to do anything other than say it’s okay. Otherwise, like you say, I have done this several times no problem.
like i said above, when i get a chance i will see  if i can duplicate it in group test.

and i did, see testing blockquote styling of an old item ...
 

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