Emotocons

I’m thinking that we should scrap (or demote) elain’s set in favor of a more traditional set like the ones in the popup list. 

What do you all think?
 
  1. happy
  2. smug (happy + proud) ← 
  3. loving it loving it
  4. cool cool
  5. laugfhing
  6. grin laugfing ironically
  7. yes ← 
  8. pondering pondering
  9. no ← 
  10. confused
  11. newnew
  12.   surprise
  13.   good idea
  14. sad ← 
  15. crying
  16. angry ← 

these perhaps should be part of an additional set, more more for the use of an action group, that a browser could optionally choose somehow.
  1.   get to it
  2. bug
  3. wizzard  administrator of group
  4. (wizzardwizzard) administrator of domain

Note i revised the sequence slightly.  It does have a logical pattern that should be eaisly recognizable by anyone.

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  1. eomotocons
  2. emoteys
  3. emotlets
  4. item 1486
  5. item 19189
  6. shiftedit.net
  7. for discussion

Comments


Seth says
these are the 16 that i am proposing now.  

some minimal discussion could happen.  i will make the changes,  if nessary,  in the item body.

bear in mind that the plan is to have expansion in a pull down galleries ... perhaps some day the default set being a group setting.

Seth says

note prior discussion and list in1486

Seth says
i think one of the gallaries could provide the more negative emotions like ..
and more

maybe another could specialize on positive ones like


maybe one that are more for develpers and action oriented posts would like stuff like


What kind of gallaries do you'all want?  This may have bearing on which of the defaul set we can or should remove and/or replace.

Bear in mind some of the choices in the default set can help set the tenor or the site.

So let's have a short discussion, and then i'll finalize the default choices.

Seth says

for reference in the dev site ...her is the current list in the production site



Seth says
nathan 2015-12-13 22:18:23 19189
I would move *dislike* to the expansion group and replace it with rose. No need to encourage people to dislike things ... which is never actually helpful but only makes a co-creation of thought take longer that it would otherwise. Leave it in for those mismatchers who feel lost without it, but put it in the extra ones ... and the rose is awesome, should be up front. smiley
i changed "like and dislike" to "yes and no" in the list.   i think we need both in the default set.  they go together and historically have been used a lot. 

i personally like to express  and even .  and rarely use .. and dont ever remeber using ... and think or are a waste of time to express.  but that is just me. 

inevitably i think we want people to express themselves according to their own real emotions, whatever those may be.  but these variations amoung people must be in the gallaries that they select (or compose) for themselves.

Seth says
that said, i woud be willing to add to the list ... replacing or or or even ... or mabe is better for love than .   what do ya think?

Si says
choy 2015-12-13 22:13:15 19189
presumably you will have the ones you missed in the expansion group, eh?
seth 2015-12-13 22:18:32 [item 19189]
yes definitely .   We could compose a gallery especially for you.  Though i'm not sure how easy these gallaries are going to be to add. 
nathan 2015-12-13 22:24:48 [item 19189]
Not too hard. It's a two step process of uploading the image to a gallery folder on the server and then making an entry for it in a JSON dictionary. Not hard, but tediously exacting. One misplaced quote or comma will blow it all up and the RTE editor won't work. And sometimes you have to tweak the sizes a bit to get them just right.
seth 2015-12-14 05:15:08 [item 19189]
you know i can (and would be glad to) do the detailed work on all of these if you just point to where i do it.   What i would prolly never get to would be some good logic to control the settings and pull downs for a good defaulting choice to happen. 
Okay.
You'll have to create your shiftedit account because it requires an email response.
  1. Go to http://www.shiftedit.net
  2. Click [get started]
  3. Click [register] ... this is important. You must create an actual account, not just login with FB, or I will not be able to log in with FB or whatever and set things up for you. You can log in with FB etc. next time.
  4. Follow instructions and create your account.
  5. Log out then send me the login info you created and I will set things up so we are correctly synchronized in the right dev working folders.

Seth says
seth@fbi 2015-12-16 11:44:22 [item 19189#37663]
well finally got caught up here … now maybe i can get back to doing this
nathan@fbi 2015-12-16 11:48:25 [item 19189#37664]
Wouldn’t a private session mode have made that a lot easier? Then all your new stuff would have been in a room where you could have edited it all until you were happy then published it.  
nope

Seth says
nathan@fbi 2015-12-20 06:20:12 [item 19269#38229]
Proud face now available. smug Or is that smug? What’s the diff? I don’t think you had proud on the list to put in?
seth@fbi 2015-12-20 07:58:40 [item 19269#38258]
should be there now.
nathan@fbi 2015-12-20 08:04:09 [item 19269#38261]
Okay. So smug and proud are the same. It’s there now. smug

Further changes you can make on your own. They are easy, but tedious. Here is a sample of the code you will be changing.
 
        CKEDITOR.config.smiley_images = [
            'smiley/regular_smile.png', 'smiley/sad_smile.png', 'smiley/wink_smile.png', 'smiley/teeth_smile.png', 'smiley/confused_smile.png', 'smiley/tongue_smile.png', //
            'smiley/embarrassed_smile.png', 'smiley/omg_smile.png', 'smiley/whatchutalkingabout_smile.png', 'smiley/angry_smile.png', 'smiley/angel_smile.png', 'smiley/shades_smile.png', //
            'smiley/devil_smile.png', 'smiley/cry_smile.png', 'smiley/lightbulb.png', 'smiley/thumbs_down.png', 'smiley/thumbs_up.png', 'smiley/heart.png', //
            'smiley/broken_heart.png', 'smiley/kiss.png', 'smiley/envelope.png', //
            // Rasberry blue images
            'razberry blue/redRose.gif', //
            'razberry blue/happy.gif','razberry blue/smug.gif','razberry blue/cool.gif','razberry blue/Laughing.gif','razberry blue/grinn.gif', //
            'razberry blue/Pondering.gif','razberry blue/thumbUp.gif','razberry blue/thumbDown.gif','razberry blue/winking.gif', //
            'razberry blue/sad.gif','razberry blue/crying.gif','razberry blue/frown.gif','razberry blue/Pondering.gif','razberry blue/eeek.gif','razberry blue/new.gif', //
            'razberry blue/idea.gif','razberry blue/heart.gif','razberry blue/round%20tuit.gif','razberry blue/bug.gif', //
            'razberry blue/wizzard.gif',
        ];

        CKEDITOR.config.smiley_descriptions = [
            'smiley', 'sad', 'wink', 'laugh', 'frown', 'cheeky', //
            'blush', 'surprise', 'indecision', 'angry', 'angel', 'cool', //
            'devil', 'crying', 'enlightened', 'no', 'yes', 'heart', //
            'broken heart', 'kiss', 'mail', //
            // Rasberry blue images
            'rose', //
            'happy','smug','cool','laughing','grin', //
            'pondering','thumbs up','thumbs down','wink', //
            'sad','crying','angry','pondering','surprise','new', //
            'idea','loving it','tuit','bug', //
            'wizzard'
        ];

Seth says
nathan@fbi 2015-12-20 07:59:36 [item 19189#38259]
I’ll leave these changes to you. You will be managing this part of it into the future anyway. yeswink
okay idea

Si says
seth@fbi 2015-12-20 08:16:00 [item 19189#38265]
we do need you to put in the ability for user to select another set and/or select to choose from an extended set.   or would that be phase 2 ?
Yes. The current smiley plugin doesn’t seem to allow another set. Only adding to the current one. But using this one solved the cursor issue where it went away after adding an emote … which was a collision with the new image edit plugin. So I switched to using this smiley plugin only since they played nice together.

Always a game getting plugins to play well in the same space.  When you have your own plugin library for FBI you will need a community of happy hackers to keep it clean and organized … which should’t be a problem, plenty out there willing to do that kind of thing for free … and not just willing, usually begging! laughing

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