ALL Gods are Invisible - Thought of the Day

Lost the item trying to collapse the comments in IT. 

So instead I simply state the corollary: Since Gods are Invisible (not sensed) then nobody can say aye or nay about any other person’s gods & -
ALL religions are made up by humans

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Comments


Iamnai says
Eiammyme 2015-12-14 10:57:34 [item 19192]
If they are all invisible (or inaudible (or unsmellable (or untastable (or untouchable (or unhearable)))) – no wonder people make up their own shit or weltanshauung .
angry
The Wizzard of Fastb 2015-12-14 12:26:57 [item 19192]
so are you pining to see and touch a God?
Iamnai 2015-12-14 12:30:43 [item 19192]
More like solving the ontology & the questions raised before.
solving the HIDING predicament.

Seth says
Wizzard 2015-12-14 12:56:33 19192
Eiammyme 2015-12-14 10:57:34 [item 19192]
If they are all invisible (or inaudible (or unsmellable (or untastable (or untouchable (or unhearable)))) �" no wonder people make up their own shit or weltanshauung .
angry
The Wizzard of Fastb 2015-12-14 12:26:57 [item 19192]
so are you pining to see and touch a God?
Iamnai 2015-12-14 12:30:43 [item 19192]
More like solving the ontology & the questions raised before.
Wizzard 2015-12-14 12:34:40 [item 19192]
yeah i got that

me i go with what happens … that has become my god … check out happens in my MindJournal … find it there somwhere connected to  the rest of my fragmented mind.
Iamnai at mark 2015-12-14 12:39:29 [item 19192]
Yeah do nothing & it will happen.

well what happens is there for all to  see … no hiding … no nothing about it … which is whi i it.
choy at choy 2015-12-14 13:07:46 [item 19192]
What happens in the 5-sense world ... everything else is hidden.

why limit to just 5 channels ?  If it impinging on me in whatever channel, then i call it “being sensed” … as opposed to what is internally generated.    There is no material/spiritual schism in my world.  Just a understanding  of what is inside and what is outside.

Seth says
Wizzard 2015-12-14 13:25:40 19192
Wizzard 2015-12-14 12:56:33 19192
Eiammyme 2015-12-14 10:57:34 [item 19192]
If they are all invisible (or inaudible (or unsmellable (or untastable (or untouchable (or unhearable)))) �" no wonder people make up their own shit or weltanshauung .
angry
The Wizzard of Fastb 2015-12-14 12:26:57 [item 19192]
so are you pining to see and touch a God?
Iamnai 2015-12-14 12:30:43 [item 19192]
More like solving the ontology & the questions raised before.
Wizzard 2015-12-14 12:34:40 [item 19192]
yeah i got that

me i go with what happens … that has become my god … check out happens in my MindJournal … find it there somwhere connected to  the rest of my fragmented mind.
Iamnai at mark 2015-12-14 12:39:29 [item 19192]
Yeah do nothing & it will happen.

well what happens is there for all to  see … no hiding … no nothing about it … which is whi i it.
choy at choy 2015-12-14 13:07:46 [item 19192]
What happens in the 5-sense world ... everything else is hidden.

why limit to just 5 channels ?  If it impinging on me in whatever channel, then i call it “being sensed” … as opposed to what is internally generated. 
choy@choy 2015-12-14 13:28:28 [item 19192]
What happens in your sense world is not available to mine except we are close enough to overlap.  I don't limit myself to 5. But, the other 7 or so are rarely shareable or evident to anyone else except the person using them.

yep that is what happens.   you are a different being … quite otherness to me … and i cannot experience what you experience, it is private to you.   … and in my weltanshauung that makes what we can share of what happens so very cherished.   

Seth says
Wizzard 2015-12-14 13:25:40 19192
Wizzard 2015-12-14 12:56:33 19192
Eiammyme 2015-12-14 10:57:34 [item 19192]
If they are all invisible (or inaudible (or unsmellable (or untastable (or untouchable (or unhearable)))) �" no wonder people make up their own shit or weltanshauung .
angry
The Wizzard of Fastb 2015-12-14 12:26:57 [item 19192]
so are you pining to see and touch a God?
Iamnai 2015-12-14 12:30:43 [item 19192]
More like solving the ontology & the questions raised before.
Wizzard 2015-12-14 12:34:40 [item 19192]
yeah i got that

me i go with what happens … that has become my god … check out happens in my MindJournal … find it there somwhere connected to  the rest of my fragmented mind.
Iamnai at mark 2015-12-14 12:39:29 [item 19192]
Yeah do nothing & it will happen.

well what happens is there for all to  see … no hiding … no nothing about it … which is whi i it.
choy at choy 2015-12-14 13:07:46 [item 19192]
What happens in the 5-sense world ... everything else is hidden.

why limit to just 5 channels ?  If it impinging on me in whatever channel, then i call it “being sensed” … as opposed to what is internally generated.    There is no material/spiritual schism in my world.  Just a understanding  of what is inside and what is outside.
choy@choy 2015-12-14 13:33:50 [item 19192]
Very confusing - I caught you in mid revision
source: ... why limit to just 5 channels ?  If it impinging on me in whatever channel, then i call it “being sensed” … as opposed to what is internally generated.    There is no material/spiritual schism in my world.  Just a clear notion of what is inside and what is outside.
... which is an oxymoron
I am in the regular fbi. 

looks like you got the jist of it anyway … i just changed “clear notion” to “understanding” … perhaps in angticipation of your interpertation of that as a “oxymoron” … lol

Si says
Wizzard 2015-12-14 13:03:32 19192
i see no comments here either ..though there are 3 threads there
choy@choy 2015-12-14 13:06:41 [item 19192]
With us all changing our names in the same group makes it hard to figure out who said what.
Maybe when one clicks on  a name it should go somewhere more useful than the group that name was used in.
LOL … that’s a hoot!

Si says
choy@choy 2015-12-14 13:35:30 [item 19192]
Yep - samo-samo ... THis item may disappear since my original item body is eaten
Wizzard@choy 2015-12-14 13:38:08 [item 19192]
i think that is a bug in switching between servers.   i’ve seen it happen too.   one should prolly use just one server ...or at least don’t try to edit the body of an item created in production over there at dev. 
Must be. I only edit here and have never seen it. Though, I am suspicious about some possible things that could get put in text and if they can traverse the channel correctly. There was an image of a pile of shit seth posted a few days ago that blew something up and I had to delete the image. It was a data url where the image was base64 inside the url. I should have saved it because now I can’t repro that.

Mark de LA says
nathan 2015-12-14 13:57:52 19192
Wizzard 2015-12-14 13:03:32 19192
i see no comments here either ..though there are 3 threads there
choy@choy 2015-12-14 13:06:41 [item 19192]
With us all changing our names in the same group makes it hard to figure out who said what.
Maybe when one clicks on  a name it should go somewhere more useful than the group that name was used in.
LOL … that’s a hoot!

Si says
nathan 2015-12-14 13:56:28 19192
nathan 2015-12-14 10:24:17 [item 19192]
I don’t think the Greek gods were invisible. Maybe not everyone saw them all the time, but they were supposed to have been visible and interacting with humans and even having sex with them. Hercules is the son of Zuess and an earth woman, and lived on earth. Didn’t you watch the TV series?
choy 2015-12-14 10:31:55 [item 19192]
One of my favorite books which GW gave to me was The Golden Ass

Which gives a good idea of what the ancients of Greece lived like & interacted with the gods. If they were gods then why are they not still  visible now?  Sounds like they were just a fantasy of a previous millenium.

 
seth 2015-12-14 10:45:40 [item 19192]
well going with nathan’s model,  “reality (and experience) is all imagination” … there would be no  difference here whether they actually existed or were just created on the fly by the powers of human imagination. 
Eiammyme 2015-12-14 10:52:08 [item 19192]
Not very comforting … no wonder it appears that the World is a mess … some people have to prove (RWG) that they have the only reality by blowing up everyone else’s & beholding 72 virgins for their own use? as the image .
nathan 2015-12-14 10:59:09 [item 19192]
Seth is right there. Kudos.

Not everyone needs to have a 72 virgin model. Some people do, that’s their business. No one has to have a world with that model in it. There are billions of things other people have in their world that I do not have in mine. Sometimes we are aware of each others worlds. Mostly not. There are millions of things that happen and operate daily in my experience that Mark has no clue about, and visa versa. Even that we both hear tell of 72 virgins being a thing for other people, we don’t experience that in any way other than hearing about it.  It’s your world. Put in it what you want to be there, it’s that simple, and your doing it anyway if you are consciously aware of it or not, just become aware of it. laugh
Eiammyme@fbi 2015-12-14 11:17:29 [item 19192]
Not everyone needs an Abraham-LOA model either. Ontologically speaking religions are born from desires to have or wish for something one doesn’t have & how not to be afraid of those things one doesn’t want. & can’t explain: Death, BIrth, Infinity, NOW, ….past, & future, health & illness i.e. all the imponderables of experience..& life �" how did it all begin? etc. The  Manual didn’t get shipped with the baby!
That’s true. LOA just defines the basic operating principle … which is essentially Gravity … like attracts like. On top of that, you can have anything and all LOA does is tell you that you really can define anything. People just get all worked up in their own definitions and think it is everything there is … but even that too, is by design. We wanted that ability to have our own experiences and still think it was the same experience everyone was having. It helps the illusion become delicious! smiley
choy 2015-12-14 14:34:36 [item 19192]
Declaring that that is the "operating principle" that works for anyone else or everyone is indeed quite an illusion . Tasty indeed!
Yes indeed! Because LOA defines all the particulars of a system upon which you can base ANY other system. If you just did that willy nilly it might not be so productive, though obviously there is one or all systems would not be working as they are. However, one can individually test that LOA is in fact a system that, if they operate as if it were true, allows them to change what they are experiencing in a predictable and repeatable way and get any sub system results they want. Hence LOA is a useful map of how maps are made. Still a map, but a useful master map at that … so I use it. If it ever stops working and there is an alternative, I will surely switch. smiley

Seth says
choy 2015-12-15 08:34:08 [item 19192]
This is evidence that long nested comments eat pellick (see the above)
hmmm me thinks that you are prolly using the old server … and none of the new features of dev.  

but yes… one long dialogue does not necessarily focus anything … except social interaction … and as such that is a very now kind of thingey ...you had to be there …. its manifestation in “mind-ma” will look kind of shitty later on.

Mark de LA says
seth 2015-12-15 08:59:40 19192
choy 2015-12-15 08:34:08 [item 19192]
This is evidence that long nested comments eat pellick (see the above)
hmmm me thinks that you are prolly using the old server … and none of the new features of dev.  

but yes… one long dialogue does not necessarily focus anything … except social interaction … and as such that is a very now kind of thingey ...you had to be there …. its manifestation in “mind-ma” will look kind of shitty later on.
If I have to read your thesis as if it were a computer program with lots of loops then I will pass it bye.  Generally the important things can be said in a lot fewer words - at least the things that important to me.


Seth says
Wizzard@fbi 2015-12-14 15:10:58 [item 19192]

nathan@fbi

We wanted that ability to have our own experiences and still think it was the same experience everyone was having. It helps the illusion become delicious!I i

i find that a weird way to talk.  If you pitch a ball to me, you experience pitching the ball … if i hit that ball out of the ballpark,  i experience the crowd’s applause of my deed … the ball is the same … sure the experiences were different.  Everything is experienced relative to yourself … so the experience can not be the same … but what happened was shared … we both participated in the event.    Where is the “illusion” ?
nathan@fbi 2015-12-14 15:20:25 [item 19192]
The holodeck metaphor (another map of course) helps with this.
It says that I pitch a ball on my holodeck and you hit a ball on yours. The Enterprise computer keeps the holodecks in sync so that it appears to you that I pitched a ball to you and that you hit it. But in fact, it happened on two differend holodecks with two different balls. If you have ever watch Start Trek TNG this will make total sense to you. Many times they ran exact scenarios like that.
The idea here is that everyone is in their own reality (on their own holodeck) having their own exxperience with everything as far as they can see, smell, touch, and taste. But in fact, it’s all an illusion created by the holodeck computer (our higher consciousness) so that we can enjoy the experience.
Wizzard@fbi 2015-12-14 15:45:01 [item 19192]
but that is just your assumption that it happens in a different holodeck.  a bizzar assumption inmho.   you could just as easily change your belief that it is the same holodeck and nothing would change. 
dork@fbi 2015-12-14 15:54:21 [item 19192]
Oh there is lots and lots and lots of evidence that we are each in our own individual realities. So much that if science would ever get scientific about the idea they would conclude simply on statistics alone that is is a hard cold fact. There is less evidence that there are really little planetary systems we call atoms than there is that we are operating in individual realities. Science, in general, just doesn’t want to entertain that thought yet … as a global thought anyway. Many individual scientists over the years have said exactly that. I would be typing all day and not upgrading your system if I started stating examples. so I’ll not do that right now.
fbi@bozo 2015-12-14 17:52:12 [item 19192]
well i am going to need a whole lot more than hearsay … i would need to test this stuff myself.  but no rush … i’m not looking forward to finding out that you are in another universe with some complicated contraption synching it up with my own …. just don’t need that … i like Occum’s Razor  … the simplest explanation is probably right.
 
nathan@fbi 2015-12-14 18:03:07 [item 19192]
It is better to experiment on your own and find out for sure for yourself than to worry about what others say about it anyway. LOA gives you nice tools you can use entirely on your own to independently verify every bit of this. Stop being lazy and just do it. Then you will know for yourself.

The holodeck is just a metaphore. It’s sounds complex, but it’s just a nice thing we have laying around our now to imagine how things could work with. The truth is, a multiverse is NOT more complex than a UNIVERSE. When you consider all the variables side by side they are equal. They just trade one complex thing here for a simple thing there and so forth right down the page. It’s only that you are more comfortable thinking in UNIVERSE terms that it seems simpler to you right now.
fbi@bozo 2015-12-15 06:31:36 [item 19192]
see doing in my mind surpriseyes

i have no prob there … except perhaps when i am lazy cheeky … what i have a prob with is your multi verses … they are not for me … i live in just this one where things happen, even you.   i don’t like the idea of disposable universes … i have this one to make work for me and mine … is all i need or want … it is in fact awsome beyond even my own imagination.
nathan@fbi 2015-12-15 06:42:40 [item 19192]
Yep. That’s the beautiful thing about there being multiverses in the first place. Then each individual can have their own just like you say, and not encroach on others desires. It’s having a universe that would be a problem. Then everyone would be stuck with the same model weather they liked it or not. In the real world, we are not limited like that. We can have one universe, or travel through many, and not bother those who wish things otherwise.  
fbi@bozo 2015-12-15 06:50:49 [item 19192]
Well yes everybody is inside their own experience … that is their universe … and we each have one … and in it we are in a sense the soverign.   That universe has inputs to it that are not created by its soverign.  And it has outputs fromit in what it does.   It is simpler for me to think of that as you are in your body, me in mine.  I think it has the same effect as your model … but it does not seem vainglorious to others.

That said … there is just the one universe where all of those individual experiences (universes) happen.  That is the othernes in which i swim … see swim.
nathan@fbi 2015-12-15 06:58:09 [item 19192]
You can hold that thought. But you doing so does not prevent me from traveling around to other parallel realities and enjoying the traveling. You actually do the same, you only make sure that your next one is linearly similar to the last one. The only difference is that I am fully aware of it happening and because of that I am able to make shifts where I want to, and you don’t. It’s funny how they both work out quite well. It’s like a person really doesn’t have to think about it to walk and if they were unaware of their legs moving they might think the world was moving and they were stationary. Some people become aware of their legs, others just move about without that awareness. Both get people where they want to go. But the people who see that they have legs sometimes think of lots of other things they can do with legs than just move around.

Multiversers are like that. You don’t have to be aware of them. But if you are, you add possible experiences to what you can experience. That’s really all there is to it. 
fbi@bozo 2015-12-15 07:08:35 [item 19192]
well i’ll think about that in detail when i do get the .

… and i have no trouble with your verse tripping … never did … its … i it … it’s just not my thing. 
nathan@fbi 2015-12-15 07:12:17 [item 19192]
Yea I get that. Organizing my thoughts and world through language (tagging) is not really my thing. I do that shit visually.  But I would use tags if they become more visual. Maybe you would use multiverses if they became more something to you.  
fbi@bozo 2015-12-15 07:17:25 [item 19192]
well my more extensive edit got collided … oh well … that is what happened surprise
nathan@fbi 2015-12-15 07:19:27 [item 19192]
Okay. Guess I should bop over to that file and add the collider detector now. Been meaning to, just got sidetracked making news readable!  
fbi@bozo 2015-12-15 07:41:52 [item 19192]
well my editing behavior … i edit and even add more content to a comment and keep doing it to make it ring truer and truer … so if another is here too … there will be many collisions.   i’m not sure that forking will be the best solution … but it would leave the new stuff behind (in the fork) so it would be there in the others face .. and not just ignored.  …. prob is, how to get the thread back together.
nathan@fbi 2015-12-15 07:53:56 [item 19192]
Yep, I agree. Forking is better than loosing, but not a great end game solution. Which has not fully appeared yet.
seth@fbi 2015-12-15 09:02:51 [item 19192]
yes i totally agree yes … once we get forking up and running and can feel what is happening … some perhaps totally thingy will emerge
nathan@fbi 2015-12-15 09:05:23 [item 19192]
Should be happening now. Not so easy to test … but you’ll know it for sure when it happens. Don’t know for sure if the fork will fully record properly in the db because none has actually happened yet. But the original edit is always still there, marked as deleted, but there.

well we porlly should not be testing this in sombody else’s blog.

Si says
choy@fbi 2015-12-14 14:10:03 [item 19192]
Stuff edited previously should be upward compatable with the new fbi.
 
Wizzard@fbi 2015-12-14 14:13:49 [item 19192]
not sure but i think it is the downard compatgatility that fucks up on an edit … dont create a intm in dev and edit it in production … i think.
nathan@fbi 2015-12-14 14:16:22 [item 19192]
That is probably true. The new editor has lots of new features. Some of the html it generates may not make it through the old RTE editor … and there is a slight possibility it will blow something up too. But that’s the crinkle of progress. Not much I can do there other than prevent editing of new stuff over in live.
Wizzard@choy 2015-12-14 14:19:23 [item 19192]
or we just don’t do that.

incidentally my name should not be linked to choy’s blog … i am commenting from fbi
nathan@fbi 2015-12-14 14:58:00 [item 19192]
Well yes, mostly it’s just you guys so it’s probably safe. But if some other guy comes into live and edits something made here in dev … I guess they get what they get. 
seth@fbi 2015-12-15 09:10:34 [item 19192]
i rather think this bug has been fixed.
Yes. Or possibly only happens when some newfangled content is in there that the old editor can’t handle. Which is probably not much.

Si says
And it’s not how things should work either. If it were, it’s how you would use it.  

Seth says
mark 2015-12-15 09:35:50 [item 19192]
somewhere there is a comment by nathan@? on tagging threads – what is identifiable as a thread in fbi?
nathan@fbi 2015-12-15 09:38:47 [item 19192]
Same as a thread anywhere. A collection of related comments. In fbi that is a quoted comment block that travels along growing until a collision causes it to *fork*.
choy 2015-12-15 09:52:03 [item 19192]
threads of related comments exist in items! tag the item. The stuff in an item should all be related somewhow although the seth/mark dialogues diverge at will.
yes that is the way it is.   threads in these long assed dilogues never really stood out.  i think now that nathan has displayed them better, they do.   so now we can think in threads under items.  

when the new  forking is working … things might suddenly become more coherant … who knows yet ...

Seth says
fbi@bozo 2015-12-15 07:44:06 [item 19192]
incidentally i am currently bozo@fib … not fib@bozo
nathan@fbi 2015-12-15 07:46:24 [item 19192]
I have not been able to repo that without actually logging in backwards, which I tend to do often.

Exactly what do you enter to become what you are now so I can try it out?
seth@fbi 2015-12-15 09:06:33 [item 19192]
like i said before, i think that was a result of you having things switched ...and that switch maybe being recortded in my cookies … so when i started at 5 am this moring ..i was fbi@bozo … in otherword my post actually did go to group bozo … i rather think that you have fixed that ...er, i hope so.
nathan@fbi 2015-12-15 09:09:41 [item 19192]
okay cool. just use that new bug tag … whatever it is. Can’t actually remember it.

Which brings up a new thing. How do I remove a tag? I started using a “wip” tag. (Work in progress), but now I don’t know how to get it off of something when the work is done! cheeky
seth@fbi 2015-12-15 09:13:40 [item 19192]
the new bug tag is nbug …  we could put that in the header of group fbi if it is really is all that problematic for you.   i’d do it now myself, but am not all that sure that feature works in dev server now ...or if dont in live would work on  dev. 
nathan@fbi 2015-12-15 09:17:40 [item 19192]
LOL … like I am going to know where this comment is next time I need to log a bug, or be on the fbi page so that I could see it in the title.

What would be really nice is that one could add a tag cloud to the “fbi group” so that whenever someone is traveling as “fbi” they automatically have easy access to all the tags related to that group.  Just saying.
well yes tags of a group is already partially implemented … but i am not sure it totally works right yet.

but you seem to misunderstand about how to get to the room of your interest  … to get to the room with all of the new bugs,  “nbugs” ,  all you need do is to retrieve that room.  type bug into the search … it should pop out at you.

Seth says
mark 2015-12-15 09:35:50 [item 19192]
somewhere there is a comment by nathan@? on tagging threads – what is identifiable as a thread in fbi?
nathan@fbi 2015-12-15 09:38:47 [item 19192]
Same as a thread anywhere. A collection of related comments. In fbi that is a quoted comment block that travels along growing until a collision causes it to *fork*.
choy 2015-12-15 09:52:03 [item 19192]
threads of related comments exist in items! tag the item. The stuff in an item should all be related somewhow although the seth/mark dialogues diverge at will.
nathan@fbi 2015-12-15 10:02:50 [item 19192]
Hell no! It just ain’t so. Maybe that’s how you think it works. But I can point out that over 60% of the stuff here at FBI is simply not like that at all!  
Bozo@niche 2015-12-15 10:07:09 [item 19192]
i think choy was talking about how things “should” appear on fastblogit ...not the way they appeard to you.
nathan@fbi 2015-12-15 10:14:45 [item 19192]
I don’t think there should be a “how things should appear”. The world is beyond that need. You have seen me transform nearly anything I wanted, in a handful of minutes, into anything else and any method or way of doing things for the last week now. Technology is up to speed such that over 90% of anything you can imagine can be done very quickly. My early changes to the data flow here makes that mostly possible here too. We should no longer be using crutches like the word “should”. Simply put, if something doesn’t feel good, make it so!  

well we will see what actually happens heart

Seth says

incidentally do so now love the word “happens” … just in case nobody has noticed wink

Si says
choy 2015-12-17 15:35:33 [item 19192#37851]
To summarize Bozo’s wentanshauung:

SHIT HAPPENS!

laugh
How do we color text?
 
choy 2015-12-17 15:36:06 [item 19192#37852]
like
nathan@fbi 2015-12-17 15:40:31 [item 19192#37853]
Bozo said that was not a desirable feature. That people abuse it too much. So I left it out of the editor controls except for the highlighter. 
choy 2015-12-17 15:44:36 [item 19192#37854]
no when one has to read stuff that has multiple lines of errors he highlights them all & then writes superlong item with many comments within comments.   Not an improvement imho.  But then according to BOZO – SHIT happens.devil
Well this way, everything you read will not be able to have so many errors! A vast improvement if you ask me.  

Si says
choy 2015-12-17 15:35:33 [item 19192#37851]
To summarize Bozo’s wentanshauung:

SHIT HAPPENS!

laugh
How do we color text?
 
choy 2015-12-17 15:36:06 [item 19192#37852]
like
nathan@fbi 2015-12-17 15:40:31 [item 19192#37853]
Bozo said that was not a desirable feature. That people abuse it too much. So I left it out of the editor controls except for the highlighter. 
choy 2015-12-17 15:44:36 [item 19192#37854]
no when one has to read stuff that has multiple lines of errors he highlights them all & then writes superlong item with many comments within comments.   Not an improvement imho.  But then according to BOZO – SHIT happens.devil
choy 2015-12-17 15:52:04 [item 19192#37856]
NOW, I know what to do with the backroom feature! 
nathan@fbi 2015-12-17 15:53:43 [item 19192#37857]
like
But being in the backroom doesn’t prevent comments on it from going into your news. People can still get your attention with it. It only removes it from your main blog and the river. Back room content.  

Seth says
seth@fbi 2015-12-17 17:58:56 [item 19192#37859]
Well gentlemen, i hate to be the odd man out here. 

The argument against colored text is that it is just another style that shouts for attention in some unspecified way … yes it grants more personality and expressiveness to the user … but it does nothing for the reader … and makes the site read weird and unprofeshional to somebody who is not familure with our antics.  

Note that the new rte has formatted text that allows for sizing text … we did not have that before.   I took that off because i had the same attitude towards it that i do towards colored text.   I say let your words speak for you … not their style. 

But majority wins here today … vote on color and format.

i vote yes on format.
no on color.
choy 2015-12-17 18:14:26 [item 19192#37862]
i vote for drag & drop images into the RTE. – tried a bit ago still can’t do it.
seth@fbi 2015-12-17 18:17:35 [item 19192#37863]
well i do believe that we will get that in any case.

So how do you vote on color and text size?
choy 2015-12-17 18:19:54 [item 19192#37864]
I like them both. 
nathan@fbi 2015-12-17 18:43:56 [item 19192#37867]
I agree about colors. A highlighter is enough. And I was even thinking of taking the heading styling down a notch. On the other hand, what I would like is preformat settings for post type. A different stylesheet could be used depending if the post was a blog post, or a technical post, or an advertisement, or documentation, etc. The whole applied style would be cohesive and pre-designed so that all styling elements looked good together. The author would still use the H1, HR, and other structural elements, but the presentation of those would change depending on the chosen document type.

For instance, Mark could select a presentation style where bold and italic and headings and block quotes and other things became well coordinated colored text styles instead of the usual styles.
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Si says
seth@fbi 2015-12-17 21:00:22 [item 19192#37870]
i think those extra style templates would become very important when (as and if) items become the mechinism for creating traditional web pages. see our hooks into traditional web presentation pages.
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Mark de LA says
the “you may also be interested in ...” doesn’t seem to relate to the topic of this item.

Si says
Yes, of course. That is because Seth tagged this thought with “forking” and forking has a lot of uses so it is used first to create relationships for the feature. I have no idea why he did that, do you?

Obviously the feature requires reasonable tagging. And for the most part does relate as I have found looking around at quite a few older thoughts. It discovers “high use tags” first and usually those tags are well used because they make good sense where they are used. This “forking” tag is an odd one out.

Mark de LA says
also people tend not to (xor don’t)  stay on topic .

Si says
Well that is one of the beauties of this method. It is not exact, just in the ball park. So it allows people to wander off topic a bit at a time. That is the best way to lead according to NLP etc.

The fact that it is keyed to the highest viewed similar thoughts keeps it automatically in the interest pool of the majority of viewers. It is statistically sound methodology.

Also, the number 5 is from NLP memory and choice studies. An ideal number of choices to peak curiosity while not overwhelming. 

Mark de LA says
Yep statistics are always amusing.  YouTube searches & subscriptions seems to gather things nicely with some surprises occasionally.

Si says
And we all know that your personal preferences do not fit in the statistics. You are a mismatcher … a group with it’s own statistics. Since most people are matchers though, when betting money, go with the matcher statistics.

i.e. Your thoughts about all this are good for ferreting out kinks … but they are not the thoughts one should follow to make money … nothing personal, that’s just straight up NLP. As a general group, mismatchers do not bring in the big bucks unless they are leveraging their niche (like your finger) because they are focusing their energy on the problems, not the solutions.

Mark de LA says
And your #Bullshit   is best devoted to examining your own self- you miss me so often it is predictable & amusing.  Examine the trigger that causes the missmatch is on your own side.
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Si says
Yep. I “miss” you so often.  

Notice, that’s what mismatchers always say.

They can’t help it. No one can “match” them, it just couldn’t be.

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