Another Idea

I woke up this AM with another thought about the ID thing.

  • anonymous users continue access as before
  • the first access (create or login) to a group builds a hashtable of groups and passwords that require authentication by email & password.
  • Once the authentication happens all subsequent logins are added to the hashtable which is particularized to reside either in a database or a cookie
  • the normal CRUD operations check the hashtable for the ID to determine if the person has the authority to complete the transaction.
I'll work on this to make it clearer if the is interested (or NOT)

Tags

  1. authentication
  2. identity
  3. item 1946

Comments


Seth says
i dont think you need a hash table, just some unique id, that is stored in the cookie AND in the database. then "check the (cookie -> db)for the ID to determine if the person has the authority to complete the transaction" is pretty much the same as you are suggesting, me thinks.

Seth says
you are introducing verification via email, but you will need to make a case for that. so far we have not used emails.

Mark de LA says
CRUD is dp lingo for Create, Read, Update, Delete ~ primary functions that one does to records.

Seth says
CRUD ?

Seth says
note someone could enter most emails if we allowed a "." in the group name. perhaps we should ?

seth@horseshit.org says
seth 2005-11-09 15:01:29 [item 1946]
note someone could enter most emails if we allowed a "." in the group name. perhaps we should ?

Seems like an obscure way to do it. what good is taking an email address if you don't verify it?
It is also just another way for spammers to trap a good email.

Mark de LA says
seth 2005-11-09 13:50:50 1946
i dont think you need a hash table, just some unique id, that is stored in the cookie AND in the database. then "check the (cookie -> db)for the ID to determine if the person has the authority to complete the transaction" is pretty much the same as you are suggesting, me thinks.
I'm also thinking a hashtable provides encryption of a kind. You can actually provide your own algorithms as well.

Mark de LA says
seth@horseshit.org 2005-11-09 16:07:27 1946
seth 2005-11-09 15:01:29 [item 1946]
note someone could enter most emails if we allowed a "." in the group name. perhaps we should ?

Seems like an obscure way to do it. what good is taking an email address if you don't verify it?
It is also just another way for spammers to trap a good email.
Can you have "." s in a url like url http://fastblogit.com/seth.horseshit  or worse url http://fastblogit.com/seth@horseshit.com ?

Seth says
.. yes, lots of "."s in urls. you can put alomst anything in a url.

Seth says
seth 2015-12-28 13:53:04 [item 1946#39624]
well whether it is a “hash table” or some other kind of list , keeping the group credentials associated to the person’s identity would allow a person to write and have privileges in a group to which  they were not immediately authenticated.   new I guess we can credit mark@mark for coming up with that first surprise thumbs up  cool  smug

I have had a desire for it ever since he brought it up. 
nathan@fbi 2015-12-28 13:56:40 [item 1946#39625]
Yes. It’s super simple. In fact it is not the problem at all. I have already discovered in maching it up that the real problem is creating new posts. When you can traverse groups transparently, where does a post go when you make a new one? Not always where you expect!

We need to brainstorm this in another post before I can release the persistent credentials feature.

i had invisioned a list of possible destinations when you click the pen.   and/or you could take a cue from the group a person was browsing … but if he is in a tag room or a river or news, well then that could not be used. 

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