Imposing consequences on others

About: a provocative article titled "negative proofs - punishment"

I’m questioning whether  a person imposing consequences on another is ever a good idea … weather in a parenting relationship, or adult-adult?  Read the short about article just for context here.

“intelligence itself may be viewed as an engine for maximizing future freedom of action.”
a TED talk
and (me) …. “Imposing consequences on others is not maximizing future freedom of action”.

I seem to remember a more human oriented TED talk with this same essence, but cannot find it now.  In any case, this tendency in the way things evolve towards diversity sure seems to me, to be a thrust from life itself with which we would do well to align. 



This raises the question in my mind: Is it ever a good idea for a person to impose unwanted consequences on another … weather in a parenting relationship, or adult-adult? I mean should we not always act to increase freedom for all?

my thought provoked by Neighsayer’s thought on


  2. punishment
  3. parenting
  4. imposing consequences
  5. manipulation
  6. morality
  7. wirelessguru1


Seth says
dA 2016-01-20 13:13:27 [item 19717#43164]
I think everyone should act according to their highest excitement. I have never met, seen, or heard of anyone who was excited about punishing or imposing upon. Some people are driven to it as a release to pain, but that is very different from excitement. I don’t think there should be presumptions about how people should act, punishment included. People should work toward being in touch with inner guidance. That’s where true harmony with one’s verse is found.
seth 2016-01-20 14:58:21 [item 19717#43169]
Well for me, living on the edge of not knowing is far more exciting than giving it  up for the mere comfort of confidence. 
nathan 2016-01-20 15:01:04 [item 19717#43170]
That quote seems reasonable, but you lost me on relevance to the topic thought here.
it had only to do with your response to the topic.

Si says
Mark 2016-01-20 15:39:31 [item 19717#43172]
silent stuff still shows up in the news.
Not thoughts.

Seth says
Mark 2016-01-20 15:54:12 [item 19717#43177]
Golden Rule is a better train to follow, haggling notwithstanding.
dA 2016-01-20 15:56:22 [item 19717#43178]
This is the golden rule. Pure golden rule.
Mark 2016-01-20 16:09:25 [item 19717#43179]
Kewl – glad you folks agree with me thumbs up
well maximizing possibilities going forward for all, and doing unto others as to oneself, are two different rubrics.  i don’t necessarily see one as better than the other … both are good advise. 

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