Skeptic Viewpoint - Counterbalance to TrueBelievers

About: the skeptic's dictionary

AC & others call it the magic (or magick) link – see also the Skeptic’s Dictionary on the law of attraction . The Secret came out in 2006.  
Skeptic on Abraham here.
Skeptic on Aleister Crowley
Skeptic on Rudolf Steiner
Skeptic on NLP
Skeptic on Energy 
Skeptic on Uri Geller
Skeptic on Ouspensky
Skeptic on Gurdjief
Thane and the Prosperos  .. & from Shakespeare The Tempest
Institute of Advanced Thinking hard to find a central web page. Also from the archives Instant Evolution – The Agony and Ecstasy of Evolution (pdf sample) – he likes 4th way.
newInstant Memory PDF – mostly a set of new(then) beliefs about memory & a bunch of self hypnosis suggestions to instll them. 

I am not saying that Robert T. Carroll is any more of an authority on stuff than his skeptical presentations. OTOH it is usually nice to adhere to my old advice:

There is no substitute for consciousness during these moments.


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Mark de LA says
dA 2016-02-08 11:51:49 [item 19886#44978]
Yes! Consciousness is pure doing. I am always a fan of it!
Mark 2016-02-08 11:53:29 [item 19886#44979]
From the point of view of Scorpio – Dynamism yes
Mark 2016-02-08 11:59:49 [item 19886#44980]
seth 2016-02-08 12:01:10 [item 19886#44981]

i think it’s more like breathing out and breathing in.  “Pure doing” would be all the breathing out  … need to breath in to sustain consciousness … er literally … see more in Absorption vs Emission as a model for understanding

but i do so like it when i breath out … doing is where it is at … heart that stuff too smiley

Si says
seth 2016-02-08 12:07:02 [item 19886#44982]
incidentally this is where i just learned not to put “/” in a title if i want to refer to it here.
dA 2016-02-08 12:15:03 [item 19886#44984]
Not so sure about that. I think just breathing. What is often done, especially here in this forum, is more a holding of breath. Lots and lots of thought about, references, contemplation, but very little breathing. A little holding of breath is okay, helps one focus sometimes. But a lot of it stifles the flow of life itself. Creates zombies.
Mark 2016-02-08 12:16:13 [item 19886#44985]
Then too there is pranayama – a bit of both.
seth 2016-02-08 12:22:14 [item 19886#44986]
well it is certainly true that there is a lot of holding breath going on … or flashing out of the metaphor … “wallowing in a reluctance to act”.    thanks for gorking my metaphor … seems to me you are using it smug 
Mark 2016-02-08 12:23:19 [item 19886#44987]
more piddle!
Said by a dedicated zombie!  

Mark de LA says
The Wisdom of not Thinking too Much :

This will be last blog post for Unnatural Acts that can improve your thinking. Instead of introducing another cognitive bias or logical fallacy, this final post will be devoted to considering when wisdom requires that we stop thinking altogether or that we stop gathering data to reflect on.
             Robert Todd Carroll

Mark de LA says
dA 2016-02-09 08:36:41 [item 19886#45033]
Check out Abe Tubes that describe how Abraham communicates to us through Esther. It is described as a bock of thoughts downloaded to her as a vibrational matrix … then her being and brain re-interpret the vibrations converting them into the closest lanugage constructs that Esther has in her vocabulary and then articulated by her voice … to become sound in her reality. We recieve from here the same way. We get vibrational packages that we then represent in our own realities in ways that make sense to each of us … and it looks and sounds like Esther talking.
Especially the early ones where she sounds like one of those fake mediums channeling the dead in a seance! thumbs up She cleaned it up later for the NewAgies. 

Holmes says
Mark 2016-02-09 07:43:00 [item 19886#45017]
… not that much thinking goes into a blog anyway laughing
seth 2016-02-09 08:05:25 [item 19886#45023]
me, i do think in my “blog”.   but not thinking, where doing and feeling are so instantly happening that any representable indirection is unnecessary, is great, ... indeed bliss itself!   but then we are myriad and scattered souls … how, oh how, to sustain our mutual dance?
dA 2016-02-09 08:08:47 [item 19886#45024]
That’s easy. Change your step. It’s only those who keep doing the same step that eventually get passed around by the other dancers … the dance must keep changing or it is not a dance anymore. Have you ever contra danced?
seth 2016-02-09 08:21:54 [item 19886#45029]
kind of hard to dance the immediate way which i described, without human communication.  i mean you are there in Pennsylvania, and mark is in california ,and me, i am in renton, and i got dance partners all around the globe.   “thought, practically used, is just human communication.” ← Bozo Faust
dA 2016-02-09 08:25:48 [item 19886#45031]
Well I disagree. Thought is creates one reality. Communication is something quite different, it is a vibrational connection re-represented in reality. Thought being communication would be more like masturbation IMHO.
seth 2016-02-09 08:34:20 [item 19886#45032]
sounds contrived to me … but, i don’t know, maybe that is how it feels to you.  when i think to myself, it is one thing … when i think out loud so others can hear, it is another thing  … the latter is communication … the former for me is more like digestion: it gathers and connects the happenings of the day and plans for the future.   i think mark is talking about trying to avoid it entirely … trust me on that … wat(ch) how he talks about it … or just   ask him.  
Mark 2016-02-09 08:46:58 [item 19886#45035]
Well then thinking domains is just a sham & advertizing meme.
seth 2016-02-09 08:48:30 [item 19886#45036]
huh … how do you arrive at that?  based upon what i said … or what nathan said?
Mark 2016-02-09 09:02:37 [item 19886#45046]
seth 2016-02-09 08:05:25 [item 19886#45023]
me, i do think in my “blog”.   but not thinking, where doing and feeling are so instantly happening that any representable indirection is unnecessary, is great, ... indeed bliss itself!   but then we are myriad and scattered souls … how, oh how, to sustain our mutual dance?
But, the nunge (munge with no clear point) caused me to think you had said I don’t think in my blog – sorry crying
dA 2016-02-09 09:05:00 [item 19886#45047]
A point may be clear, but not yet ready to be taken in, to be accepted and danced with. Not all that is munge is so.
Mark 2016-02-09 09:08:53 [item 19886#45048]
-OR more likely the originator of the content can’t express what is in his/her mind or has nothing there to start with …. something like twittering only different. laughing
dA 2016-02-09 09:12:58 [item 19886#45050]
Not possible. We each design our own experience. When we don’t understand something, it is by our own design, for whatever reason. It is through our own beliefs and our own perspective. That which is being received vibrationally is perfectly clear, perfectly complete, or it would not be a vibration at all. It is a transmission of essence.
Mark 2016-02-09 09:23:47 [item 19886#45054]
Yep, that’s a good illustration! laughingthumbs up
Thank you! It was a good thought.

Mark de LA says
Also from the Institute of Advanced Thinking – Beyond the New Age (1994) …. but before FB?

This how we advertise this work: This is a stunning criticism of New Age metaphysical practices. The true evolutionary path requires no meditation, no positive thinking, no imaging, no self-esteem, no subliminals!The old ways of "evolving" are over! Conventional "self-improvement" is obsolete!The New Age is spiritual "kindergarten" compared to the new philosophic wisdom needed in today's turbulent world. Discover: Why positive thinking is not thinking! Why "Feel Good" New Age metaphysics is dangerous to your health! Why out-of-body travel is fantasy! Why subliminal tapes do not work! How to protect yourself from "mind control" cults! Why reincarnation is an "ego" trip! Humans are capable of evolving to hyperdimensional states of mind when they give up materialistic science, religion and metaphysics. Real transformation requires a revolutionary way of thinking.

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