Anti-Languages

About: bbc - future - the secret “anti-languages” you’re not supposed to know

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  2. language
  3. neologism
  4. slang

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Si says
Cool, ad ee said “He thinks that the web will only encourage the creation of slang that share some of the qualities of anti-languages”. I fro it bro.  

Seth says
seth of group seth 2016-02-13 06:36:21 [item 19951#45414]
wizzard incidentally, mark, you do know that you can edit out the weird characters in the about title so that we all can read it more clearly.  You know,  we humans correcting the computer’s stupid misspellings.
Mark of group mark 2016-02-13 07:35:11 [item 19951#45422]
… or you wizzardwhizzards could figure out how to get them from the website they start in into fbi2.89 laughing
Throwaway of group Throwaway 2016-02-13 07:39:37 [item 19951#45425]
this is a tigger thingey now … and not very important as such thingies go … however your fingers are available in your group … just saying.  after all it is the role of the wizzard here to say such things from time to time.  sometimes people listen … sometimes they are oblivious to all in their environment except the inside of their own eyeballs.
Mark of group mark 2016-02-13 08:16:24 [item 19951#45435]
Yep, Yep, was a late-nighter didn’t care. If I wanted to I would just re-write the headline myself. Been doing that for years to get around the apostrophe problem. smug
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in any case, thanks for the article … it hit the spot indeed!

Mark de LA says
seth of group seth 2016-02-13 02:54:55 [item 19951#45407]
yes well worth a quick read.   We all do this … make up our own words … you got some doozies … for example “munge” … or phrases … like “pile of words” … or “birdie”.   then we culture the art of talking in specific ways … or switching and talking in another way … linguistically switching universes as it were.   English teachers hate it.  They try to squelsh that kind of shit in the bud.    But notice how well people who care to understand such communications actually do grock them … they just don’t usually grock them as the speaker intended, rather they grock them as a transaction from the speaker to themselves.   i claim it is a high art to listen to speech and actually hear it as the speaker intended … you need to really understand and heart the speaker to do that … and know that most usually you will still misinterpret … yet it is fun to try.
Argot or rambalot ?  The article was written for the BBC so they missed ebonics & rap music.
GW used slang in his ZZ poetry & rhyming slang to build ming. Publishing Dayn WaW (there are 4 versions unpublished ). The point here about listening to the speaker is exactly how the language builds the troglodytes-thelemites cottage.

Seth says
seth of group seth 2016-02-13 08:35:41 [item 19951#45438]
The point here about listening to the speaker is exactly how the language builds the troglodytes-thelemites cottage.
Mark

huh?  How does carefully listening build anything that should be called a “troglodytes-thelemites cottage” ?  And what is that thing?  What is a “troglodyte-thelemite cottage” ?  Is it kind of like the inside vs outside of a mind?  Truly i do not know what you are getting at here … but it is still truly exciting.
Mark of group mark 2016-02-13 08:38:51 [item 19951#45439]
exactly – the point of the article in-group vs outsiders.
seth of group seth 2016-02-13 08:47:15 [item 19951#45441]
okay .. got it yes

language itself does this.  witness all the different languages of the world … then all the different jargons … and technical speak talk.  each one kind of defines a mind space ...which then would have an inside and a outside.  if you are on the outside, you can still carefully listen to it as otherness … er, that is if you actually care/give a shit … er, which in my experience most people simply do not … see Blank To Each Other … but that is just probably for my own personal concern wink
Mark of group mark 2016-02-13 08:58:39 [item 19951#45444]
Or instead of blank perhaps ShoShin thumbs up
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