One day in the Warehouse I Experienced A Very Special Place

We called it θιρθ – Obviously fiction, It was a place like a Utopia where everyone instinctively did the “right thing” like living by the Golden Rule without haggling about it. cool
A rose might grow there without the need for manure.roseheart
 

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Holmes says
道教, 道家思想 of group da 2016-02-19 11:38:53 [item 20048#46115]
In The Play Nexus we understand that place well and create it in our workshops. It is exactly what LOA calls “the vortex” and other modern systems have called “flow state”. It’s a wonderful thing, and we all have full control over entering it any time we desire with as many other people as we desire ... and as we teach in The Play Nexus, play is one of the best entry points.
θιρθ of group mark 2016-02-19 11:40:24 [item 20048#46118]
& even non-play is OK laughing
seth of group seth 2016-02-19 11:51:36 [item 20048#46121]
i expect that were the LOA vortex and mark’s ØipØ the same place,  then there would be no “non-play” even possible there.  If there was a person there who, according to a person outside of the vortex did something that would be interpreted by those outside the vortex as wrong,  then inside the vortex it could not be interpreted as wrong … in other words it would just be accepted and appreciated for what it was in its own right and not judged right or wrong. 

this says substantially what i wanted it to say.  bear in mind that this is an ideal venue … not a real one, since that is the way i interpret mark’s thought.
In my experience, those outside the vortex see what is going on inside and don’t understand it. They defiantly don’t see anything going on inside as wrong in relation to anything else inside, they either see it in awe, or with a confused look on their face. Inside, there is no wrong, as you say, but not because of the way people inside interpret things, rather because the people inside are in sync, following inner guidance and excitement to such immersed degree that they are exactly in the right place at the right time to feel the perfection of their desire exactly matching, moment to moment, what is happening.

Holmes says
Here is a rule of thumb. When you are outside the vortex it is often needed to interpret things differently, in better ways, in order to get into the vortex. That’s where grids, reframing, and many other tools are very useful. Once you are in the vortex, you no longer need to change or adjust your interpretation of anything … you have no desire to because your experience flows from moment to moment in blissful ease perfection … like Mark described above.

Seth says
thing is, even in an ideal vortex, there will be people there who are not in the vortex, and others that are in the vortes … well at least in any real situation.   that was the percicament i was talking about. 

then too, one can perceive that the vortex is already happening all around  us … it just being a matter of tuning in and participating.  which is why, me thinks, it may be  necessary to distinguish who is in and who is out.  OMG the thelmite/troglodyte monster rears its ugly head again … see troglodytes … so maybe not.

Seth says
道教, 道家思想 of group da 2016-02-19 11:38:53 [item 20048#46115]
In The Play Nexus we understand that place well and create it in our workshops. It is exactly what LOA calls “the vortex” and other modern systems have called “flow state”. It’s a wonderful thing, and we all have full control over entering it any time we desire with as many other people as we desire ... and as we teach in The Play Nexus, play is one of the best entry points.
θιρθ of group mark 2016-02-19 11:40:24 [item 20048#46118]
& even non-play is OK laughing
seth of group seth 2016-02-19 11:51:36 [item 20048#46121]
i expect that were the LOA vortex and mark’s ØipØ the same place,  then there would be no “non-play” even possible there.  If there was a person there who, according to a person outside of the vortex did something that would be interpreted by those outside the vortex as wrong,  then inside the vortex it could not be interpreted as wrong … in other words it would just be accepted and appreciated for what it was in its own right and not judged right or wrong. 

this says substantially what i wanted it to say.  bear in mind that this is an ideal venue … not a real one, since that is the way i interpret mark’s thought.
θιρθ of group mark 2016-02-19 12:52:02 [item 20048#46133]
Years later while walking along the Oregon shore I spied a rock map – a clue :- my dog shadow is somethat perplexed & says “are you shitting me?” see below: (click – for some strange reason I can’t import them using the upload image icon.)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8nVnQs5QT_Xb3VZRHoxLTFPN2M/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8nVnQs5QT_XeWphZ2Q5QllzZHM/view?usp=sharing 
laughyes

Mark de LA says
In a castle in Del Mar California 28 years ago, in the first date with destiny with Tony Robbins,  I went over my value system & determined in contemplation how that part of me was wired (circa 1989) – I’m a bit different now, & quite a bit different from you folks – can we bridge the gap? who knows? is there a gap to bridge? who knows? It probably blurs the grok on θιρθ, though – note the value of play must be hidden within a few others. There are things I know & things I don’t know. (*) “I don’t know instead” .
http://icybermind.net/CFR1/Values/ 

Mark de LA says
道教, 道家思想 of group da 2016-02-19 11:38:53 [item 20048#46115]
In The Play Nexus we understand that place well and create it in our workshops. It is exactly what LOA calls “the vortex” and other modern systems have called “flow state”. It’s a wonderful thing, and we all have full control over entering it any time we desire with as many other people as we desire ... and as we teach in The Play Nexus, play is one of the best entry points.
θιρθ of group mark 2016-02-19 11:40:24 [item 20048#46118]
& even non-play is OK laughing
道教, 道家思想 of group da 2016-02-19 11:42:45 [item 20048#46120]
Yes. There are many easy entry points, and many hard ones too. Play is an excellent one because we have done it before, when we were very young at the least, and those vibrational memory patterns are still with us and usable, no matter what our age.
Most of your play nexus is something else besides θιρθ – nice could go → LOA or not. θιρθ is on the upper levels of intuition no need to haggle or manipulate or persuade – more artistic – less machinery. yes

Seth says
θιρθ of group mark 2016-02-19 12:56:04 [item 20048#46135]
BTW, while your comments are really nice & folks need something with which to cognize another’s tales – I am the only one who directly experienced θιρθ. rosecool 
seth of group seth 2016-02-19 12:58:09 [item 20048#46136]
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seth of group seth 2016-02-19 16:20:25 [item 20048#46144]
incidentally i also have experienced ØlpØ at times with various people for lesser and greater periods of time … buy i am not sure if is was a perfect as yours or even if it was more perfect. 
Choy of group mark 2016-02-19 16:40:09 [item 20048#46145]
It is less generic than you folks think it is. Today it is almost just a meme – a place where people do the right thing & don’t haggle about the Golden Rule or anything else like what is it? There would be no need for politicians there; no need for lawyers;  cool
 
well i can certainly appreciate experiences being non-generic and extremely singular smileyyes

Mark de LA says
One thing I left out of the picture on values is that TR showed us how to shuffle the deck & reorder or install new values. . Nice to know.