Profiles ready to play

There are still some things to work out, like where these should go by default for new users, and how to tie in with the top menus, and other things, but profiles are ready enough for you to play. This is ALPHA software, so don’t go all wiggy on alpha bites, simply report problems and make “nice” suggestions. Thanks!

Mark will like one feature in particular! <hint hint>
 
All you have to do is put

in any thought in your profile group to show the profile there.

To edit the profile, simply make a thought where you like it and add the full argument to the plugin reference. Then it will show editing of all the profile stuff when you are you, but others will just see the public part always. (under here is where your <hint hint> is Mark)

   



The order of the profile argument is important. It must come first because it is the name of the plugin. Any more arguments can be in any order except for “pared” ones. This applies to ALL plugins, not just this one.

Note: The profile image url field in your profile is only a quick and easy way to do it “for now”. I have much bigger plans for a generalized image tool that will replace it later. But for now, at least you can set your image.

Hint: Try putting

in your group sticky header!

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Holmes says
p.s. I know you all will want the Bio field to be rich text. It is on the list of generalized features to build.

Holmes says
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 06:44:33 [item 20312#48003]
well it works amazingly well !
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Holmes says
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 06:46:06 [item 20312#48005]
Notice that sounds are on it (for da m dude) and stealth (for me)
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 06:48:58 [item 20312#48007]
didn’t notice that … i have my sound turned off in difference to annoying denise.
Well, now you don’t have to have your sounds turned off … except for Facebook notifications of course. You can mute your TD notify’s.

Seth says
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 07:07:45 [item 20312#48011]
“but omg not the way any even web savey person would ever expect”  … I said “be nice” you simply did not read all the alpha documentation as you normally don’t. ALPHA IS NOT for the general people. This part of the feature was noted to be in further development in more than one place in the thought.

Will NEVER put submit buttons on things. I do not follow trashy Microsoft design standards. All my stuff works according to the published Apple ubiquitous standard where changes happen immediately. It is much better for the user as huge amounts of research has shown. Even when users “don’t expect” it, they still get the result. It works.
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:10:47 [item 20312#48012]
okay …. didn’t know that particular feature was not as you intended.  it was exactly where i stumbeled using your system.  thought you wanted to know shit like that. 
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 07:17:24 [item 20312#48014]
This is alpa, I said that and even pleaded for you to be nice. Instead you went all hardball and didn’t read and digest and integrate all the alpa qualifiers and doc so that we can work from here. You always treat alpha like it is a totally finished feature. I hate doing alpha with you because you do that every time … but I don’t have anyone else to alpha with. Such is life.
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:18:13 [item 20312#48015]
oh get over it ….. i reported my experiences.
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 07:20:31 [item 20312#48017]
You did not report them in the context I set up for the experience. Alpha testing is a context you seem unwilling to enter.
indecision

Seth says
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 06:48:02 [item 20312#48006]
i can’t seem to collapse it and see it just as other seee it.  having to always scrll past that every time i come to my blog would be totally a wast of my eyeball space.

i miss a submit changes button when i change data.   it looks like it takes effect just as soon as i type it … but i didn’t expect that, hard to figure out … especially because i can’t collapse it and see it as others do.
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 06:50:31 [item 20312#48008]
simply remove the full argument. I have one page with it, and don’t have it on my sticky. I am thinging about other ideas. But there is lots yet to verify in other verses on this one.
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:01:08 [item 20312#48010]
well that worked … but omg not the way even a web savvy person would ever expect.  

it needs a submit changes after changing settings, and a open settings dialogue button.  i would put the first at the bottom of the form, and the second added to the menu.  

← perhaps this menu
or let the Pen just open it for changing settings … that is what i had originally expected. 

the idea that people are going to edit the plugin arguments needs some other path. 
 
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 07:11:01 [item 20312#48013]
Yes. Agreed on other path. But there are many things I have already considered that you have not even gotten to yet.

One that you didn’t consider yet is that you can put anything else you want on the page too. The profile reference can live with other stuff, even in the middle. See group da sticky. So just opening it with the pen would be havoc.
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:20:10 [item 20312#48016]
ok i see what you are doing there … good idea.

i still think the Pen edit sould activate the plugin for entry and let the person edit the rest of the the thought too.   if you put a close button on the form returning you to edit and then allow the person to save changes as usual, that would be perfect.
idea …. consider it

Holmes says
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 06:48:02 [item 20312#48006]
i can’t seem to collapse it and see it just as other seee it.  having to always scrll past that every time i come to my blog would be totally a wast of my eyeball space.

i miss a submit changes button when i change data.   it looks like it takes effect just as soon as i type it … but i didn’t expect that, hard to figure out … especially because i can’t collapse it and see it as others do.
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 06:50:31 [item 20312#48008]
simply remove the full argument. I have one page with it, and don’t have it on my sticky. I am thinging about other ideas. But there is lots yet to verify in other verses on this one.
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:01:08 [item 20312#48010]
well that worked … but omg not the way even a web savvy person would ever expect.  

it needs a submit changes after changing settings, and a open settings dialogue button.  i would put the first at the bottom of the form, and the second added to the menu.  

← perhaps this menu
or let the Pen just open it for changing settings … that is what i had originally expected. 

the idea that people are going to edit the plugin arguments needs some other path. 
 
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 07:11:01 [item 20312#48013]
Yes. Agreed on other path. But there are many things I have already considered that you have not even gotten to yet.

One that you didn’t consider yet is that you can put anything else you want on the page too. The profile reference can live with other stuff, even in the middle. See group da sticky. So just opening it with the pen would be havoc.
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:20:10 [item 20312#48016]
ok i see what you are doing there … good idea.

i still think the Pen edit sould activate the plugin for entry and let the person edit the rest of the the thought too.   if you put a close button on the form returning you to edit and then allow the person to save changes as usual, that would be perfect.
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 07:24:21 [item 20312#48020]
Though I like that idea in general, the logistics are too advanced. The pen opens the RTE. I can’t embed a live form in the middle of the RTE, and tacking it on the bottom would be kludgy and probably off the page and never seen. I am letting other more general solutions percolate in while we still enjoy being able to have profile settings now.
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:25:54 [item 20312#48021]
yeah ok … scratch that.   but it is totally clumsy the way it is. 
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 07:27:59 [item 20312#48023]
On purpose actually. This way we can play in all the verses until the real right way pops. If it worked too well right now, but in a specialized way, then we would not do the necessary verse play to get the real wallaby.

It’s good to leave some things clumsy when they are not perfect … that’s how great ideas get born.
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:30:09 [item 20312#48024]
hmmm … ok … laugh …. sure … heart
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:33:19 [item 20312#48026]
combining two different sources of input is going to be tricky.   one edge actually is what people expect.   if you don’t satisy that … you have to kind of effectively divert their attenton to what you want them to do.   changing settings … and adding some of your own in the same process … is not what people are going to expect.
Yes. But the real way for thoughts and TD’s has not popped. So this will keep driving it there and let us play with these creatures for a bit.

Seth says
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 06:48:02 [item 20312#48006]
i can’t seem to collapse it and see it just as other seee it.  having to always scrll past that every time i come to my blog would be totally a wast of my eyeball space.

i miss a submit changes button when i change data.   it looks like it takes effect just as soon as i type it … but i didn’t expect that, hard to figure out … especially because i can’t collapse it and see it as others do.
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 06:50:31 [item 20312#48008]
simply remove the full argument. I have one page with it, and don’t have it on my sticky. I am thinging about other ideas. But there is lots yet to verify in other verses on this one.
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:01:08 [item 20312#48010]
well that worked … but omg not the way even a web savvy person would ever expect.  

it needs a submit changes after changing settings, and a open settings dialogue button.  i would put the first at the bottom of the form, and the second added to the menu.  

← perhaps this menu
or let the Pen just open it for changing settings … that is what i had originally expected. 

the idea that people are going to edit the plugin arguments needs some other path. 
 
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 07:11:01 [item 20312#48013]
Yes. Agreed on other path. But there are many things I have already considered that you have not even gotten to yet.

One that you didn’t consider yet is that you can put anything else you want on the page too. The profile reference can live with other stuff, even in the middle. See group da sticky. So just opening it with the pen would be havoc.
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:20:10 [item 20312#48016]
ok i see what you are doing there … good idea.

i still think the Pen edit sould activate the plugin for entry and let the person edit the rest of the the thought too.   if you put a close button on the form returning you to edit and then allow the person to save changes as usual, that would be perfect.
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 07:24:21 [item 20312#48020]
Though I like that idea in general, the logistics are too advanced. The pen opens the RTE. I can’t embed a live form in the middle of the RTE, and tacking it on the bottom would be kludgy and probably off the page and never seen. I am letting other more general solutions percolate in while we still enjoy being able to have profile settings now.
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:25:54 [item 20312#48021]
yeah ok … scratch that.   but it is totally clumsy the way it is. 
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:27:50 [item 20312#48022]
outside of that its totally great !   …. i would have expected that one woul edit the bio right in the bio ...and not udeer it.   but that part worked … once i saw it working
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 07:32:18 [item 20312#48025]
Yes. I actually have plans in that direction. But generalized plans. I have been tuning into how to allow adding all kinds of form-like active components to thoughts in a generalized way that anyone can use and that work off the new API. When those are ready, then we can simply switch the profile over to it. Right now this gets us going without a lot of extra work and gives us an embeddable live reference to play with to see how those creatures fit into the TD verse.
seth of group seth 2016-03-05 07:42:34 [item 20312#48028]
i guess you know we already have a place for the two differen kinds of input into the profile.



← this one for getting into editing the the settings

… err assuming we know wheerre they are.



← and this one to add more user infor exterporaneously
 
Topanga of group da 2016-03-05 07:48:01 [item 20312#48029]
Yes. Not only do I know it, but I opened with that very thing in my first paragraph in the alpha thought, where I saId “how to tie it in with the top menu’s etc”.

I REALLY DO cover every base I can when I set up an alpha context. I know alpha testing is more work for the testers, and I do extra work to set the context up so the alpha testers can focus on the state of things as they exist and not get lost in the areas that are not part of the alpha context.
thinking out loud here now ...

sure there are lots of ways that we can allow the combinations of inputs to happen in different contexts.  and i am totally with you on TDs pioneering that.   for example the contents cmmand … is executed just once.  … so we never edit the contents when we are telling the machine to give us the contents.   …. i’m just thinking something like that could help us here.

point being that it is not workable for a newbe right now.   so what’s the next step tiger ?
 
incidentally i also would appreciate you taking  me the way i am and not the way your imagination wants me to be …. remember I am other than you.
indecision

 

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