Was Feeling Domains now is a Jumble about headers groups & admin stuff
You can edit this sticky thought to be this groups header.
You can delete this if you don’t want a group header.
Add more thoughts to your group with the pencil in the menu bar.
Why can’t I send this to the back room or make it disappear besides deleting it. What are the ramifications of deleting it?
2 KINDS OF GROUPS ? ………… WTF?
I do see it in the back room?
Two kinds of groups? No. All the same. Rather your identity get’s it’s own group. It’s called your “profile group”. It’s a normal group in every way as a group but it is special to your identity.
You CAN delete tags anytime, even in multiple. Just put a ! on the front of the tag name in the tag box and submit it. You don’t have to use the editor.
You know you can add multiple tags at a time too? Just put a comma between them?
And you can even mix delete and add at the same time.
this is great,i love it,!sucks,love,!stupid
That would add this is great and i love it and love and remove sucks and stupid
The idea of making a a specific group represent an identity is the oddball thing. Not saying it is wrong per se, but it is the only thing that blows gaskets in people’s thinking. It’s unique to here and not seen elsewhere.
You see the thing is, the area that is constantly in contention, and the area where Mark and others do and will stumble, is the idea that there is a group that "is a person". It's something you have been dearly attached to, for whatever reason. Possibly because of how you started out doing groups at fbi.
But maybe it would be good to take a step back and see if that is really a thing. It is an area that a whole lot of special considerations in the code, and in user processes, and in user understanding, are tied up with. There may be a much simpler and better way to deal with users.
proudly scribed using markdown?
And yes to be clear … i have accepted the principle that groups are issued a number that can be used until a group is permanently named … and it can function perfectly even if it does not ever acquire a named status.
The same feature of being able to remember and call out this simple name of the person on the web applies equally to a person’s profile group as it does to a community group.
Not that a person can’t be a fully public identity if they want to be, but any good system should allow them not to be in any way they desire. It should never assume about that … even if it has the person well known for it’s own internal use.
so, apparently, we have giggeled around to allow that freedom. just don’t lock them out of being authentic with a real name if that is what they want and earn … see group seth.
I even have long range plans that will make formatting your own thoughts easier by utilizing draft mode to give you additional composition abilities that are not available thought any normal RTE. Things like more exact image placement and control … and preformatted areas and panels you can drag and drop from a widget library.
A group has identity … there is no question of that. Here are two examples of groups having identity elsewhere …
https://www.facebook.com/Renton-Food-Co-Op-558899370810347/ a Facebook Group
https://plus.google.com/communities/115591368588047305300 a G+ group
Note that each of those identities has a clear human readable title.
Frequently it is necessary to call out these groups in places where using a long URL is not feasable. Hence many websites have given them a short name that people can talk about in voice on the phone and other such venues. Thinking domains certainly wants to do that too … just go to fastblogit.com/poolefarm and see pictures of Bonnie’s farm. That is a feature that there is absolutely no reason to give up.
The same really applies to the the short url name of a person’s profile group.
Personal profiles should not be required to have a permalink. That should be a well considered option for those who actually need it, however the option is obtained. People should not be willfully forced into the global community with a short url.
And yes we have arrived at a system that does not force a person to assign a name to their profile group.
It is not the time to go into exact rules. Though I can say that it would now be possible to relax the requirement of adding a .1 on the end of a group name. Since it is a deliberate process and not being done for you, we can easily consider that drive by users won’t go the extra mile to get permanence and thus the first person who wants an available name is intending to actually use it.
but we really need to start playing both of those games … let the first version of them pop now. find a place in the system wher the request is made and a place where a wizard or master or a algorithm can grant the request.
But the more usual need we haven’t yet addressed is to just set the title of someone's profile group for the first time. Assuming it would be factored from their initial alias is an aukward assumption and quite possibly wrong. Especially if their initial alias is chosen as a test or a joke or flippantly.
We also don’t want to burden them with changing their profile group title every time they change their alias.
So what is left is to start it out with some meaningful common thing, like “Author Profile” or any other good thing like that.
I said that to say, the name that can be so easily changed internally, can not be same name that the person requests to be in their permanent url.
What I am saying is that because they are not related, we should not use the alias as part of the “initial” group profile name. Which only leaves us with static names like “Author Profile” or some other good thing like that.
I would also like to surface it on the profile group settings page even thought it is technically not a user setting, and, as you suggested, include it wherever group names are chosen. But I am just making sure to leave it as “Author Profile” for new born profile groups since you have commented on that so many times before and I want to be done with this in that piece of code one way or another.
Beyond that i don’t really know what you are saying. I am saying that that title is chosen by the author, of the profile or the group when they request a perminant url.
My own permanence name at FB would have been different today if they had not made it a more “up front” thing to do when I first signed up with FB. Now it is buried in their settings and one is well told the implications.