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So true!

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Mark de LA says
Seth 2016-03-22 12:57:08 [item 20634#50028]
first sentence is true.

second sentence is just confusion.   it seems to be  assuming some kind of mirroring … which may or may be happening.  me, i would prefer that this buddah speak for himself … he did so in his first sentence … if he did that in his second sentence i might be able to understand it. 
neither is true

Si says
nathan 2016-03-22 13:02:47 [item 20634#50030]
It’s simple enough. Same thing I (and many others) have said. It’s a simple statement about the nature of self, others, and the deepest levels of reality. You will get it when you are ready.   
Seth 2016-03-22 13:16:41 [item 20634#50031]
laugh …. your responds is not useful to me at all … i hope it gave you a superior feeling because that appears to be the only message to me that it contains.

I have heard this mirroring meme from you and many others … and i have no doubt that people do it.   Just like an RWG it is common behavior.  And just like the RWG it is not necessary. 

So …

I am me … you are you … just exactly what we each think and make ourselves to be.  Of course we can move our skins to be where we think they are … and bounce around against and with each other.  On game is the mirroring the Budaha above mentioned in his second sentence.  Me, i dont like to play that game … and like the RWG avoid it.    I like this extra resuliton in memes … rather than vague and ambiguous riddles … well if they work ok … but all to frequently they end up with just a cute way to hide what to me is a lie.
It’s not RWG or being superior. It’s just knowing and doing, being part of the world as I find it. It’s like swimming. You would not berate me for saying “you will swim when you are ready” to someone who is not swimming right now. You know that humans can swim and this person too will be able to swim when they learn to swim or whenever they overcome a fear they have about water or whatever it is that keeps them from swimming right now.

I know these things are true. I experience them. I know others who experience them. I also know what it is like to not have experienced them yet, for I have been there too. I know that you can experience them and probably will, when you are ready. There is nothing in that except being honest about my experience and knowledge. If only everyone would be honest instead of trying to fit in and pretend about what they know and don’t know … so much would be easier and more fun for all of us.   

You do not have to put yourself lower than what I say. That is a choice you make if you put yourself in a perspective where you say I have a superior feeling. I judge not either way … I only say what I say, what I know. I don’t feel superior. I feel I am where I am and my path has brought me here. That is all.

Si says
Mark 2016-03-22 13:34:22 [item 20634#50033]
It is reflexively impossible – nobody knows anything – end of story.smug
… and that’s where you are. No judgment. That’s you … but I know for sure it won’t be the “end of your story”   

Mark de LA says
Seth 2016-03-22 13:37:55 [item 20634#50036]
whatever … i have no interest in any of that.

but i am interested in the actual subject matter itself … like i talked about below the first paragraph.

if you can’t talk directly about that … no prob either … so i am back to finding why Google won’t recognize speaktomecatalog’s smpt server.
Yeah me to .. it is one of those meme pronouncements whose truthyness is suspect but disappears completely on deep analysis as similar to most of the contrived platitudes in facebook

Mark de LA says
Mark 2016-03-22 13:37:16 [item 20634#50035]
Seth try mentographing it for Nathan . No judgment needed.  laughing
Seth 2016-03-22 13:42:28 [item 20634#50039]
well  i considered that … but not enough edges for me to even know what it is about … people are not speaking directly … too many other transactions not in the plane of the topic.  seems to be just the age old “I know, you do not” which is just a variation on “I am right, you are wrong” … can go on for ever just doing that .. and never arrive at what is means to behold another being. 
Applies to the memesterslaughing

Seth says
Seth 2016-03-22 13:37:55 [item 20634#50036]
whatever … i have no interest in any of that.

but i am interested in the actual subject matter itself … like i talked about below the first paragraph.

if you can’t talk directly about that … no prob either … so i am back to finding why Google won’t recognize speaktomecatalog’s smpt server.
nathan 2016-03-22 13:40:18 [item 20634#50037]
Well, I don’t take the second sentence to be anything about mirroring. I don’t see this as about the mirror aspect of reality. It is simple and literal. That’s the content I see.
what does the second sentence mean to you?   Say it another way … maybe provide an example … then perhaps i can grok what it means.

Si says
Mark 2016-03-22 13:37:16 [item 20634#50035]
Seth try mentographing it for Nathan . No judgment needed.  laughing
Seth 2016-03-22 13:42:28 [item 20634#50039]
well  i considered that … but not enough edges for me to even know what it is about … people are not speaking directly … too many other transactions not in the plane of the topic.  seems to be just the age old “I know, you do not” which is just a variation on “I am right, you are wrong” … can go on for ever just doing that .. and never arrive at what is means to behold another being. 
It’s not about right and wrong, or reflections. It’s simply about what we are … the nature of being. Like all good Koan’s … when you get it, it’s special. Until then, it’s many different paths of nonsense taking you to many places of experience and understanding. I put it here so those here can play with it, take some journeys, or not. Always there is choice.