Encouraging Otherness

About: brussels is what happens when liberals don't push immigrants to integrate | new york post

Immigration unchecked rather than migration & assimilation is the best way to destroy a culture & perhaps a country. It is on a par with Rules for Radicals & Cloward-Piven.
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Mark de LA says
I diss this kind of otherness thumbs down

Si says
nathan 2016-03-28 13:01:59 [item 20707#50488]
There are only people. Those who think otherwise are the very source of things like your Jihad Report.

Which is okay, all these realities can coexist in parallel just fine without any necessary interaction. But … you should be aware of what you are choosing and creating when you thumbs down like that. Your reality is very fickle. You create your own problems, disrespect them, and rwg the shit out of them. Hey, that’s your thing, I get it. devil
Camo-lion 2016-03-28 13:38:05 [item 20707#50496]
samo-samo shampoo …. meh
meh meh

Mark de LA says
Seth 2016-03-28 13:22:22 [item 20707#50493]
brussels was RWG,  at it’s peak!  … not respect for otherness.  
 
 

strange how these concepts get switched around in our boxes.  like a flim flam game. 

Camo-lion 2016-03-28 13:37:28 [item 20707#50495]
You, Seth, didn’t read the article . The bombing was RWG. The lack of assimilation providing for a haven for Islamic terror cells was the cause. The USA in the beginning & in the immigration policies was into assimilation.  People coming here wanted to be Americans while retaining a taste of their own culture. Nowadays … Pffffttttt .
Seth 2016-03-28 13:43:58 [item 20707#50500]
strangely enought mark, i had actually understood from the start that you were  talking about the lack of assimilation.  Assemilation at its best  is learning to live with each other regardless of differences … what it is not, is eliminating the differences.  eliminating the differences, when resisted, becomes RWG … or it becomes submission … so fight, or give up you freedom.  That is the choce, once we have given up the possibility of respect for somone else being different.
YEP, YOU did not read the artlcle. 

Mark de LA says
Seth 2016-03-28 13:09:33 [item 20707#50491]
respect for otherness is the same thing as learning to live with each other even when we are so very different.  … er, which i take it would happen when people are  encouraged to assimilate within their host culture. 
nathan 2016-03-28 13:14:33 [item 20707#50492]
Nope. That’s the way it has been tried for thousands and thousands of years. Won’t work the next time any more than it has worked the last umpteen times.

What will work is very very simple. Following excitement. That automatically schronizes people up perfectly and creates a harmonious high functioning society. This isn’t theory, it is the way quite a few other societies in the multiverse do function. You may or may not believe that. But in any case, I know you have seen the value in following excitement at times … simply imagine that out to be everyone doing it … everyone appearing at exactly the right time and right place to experience their own highest desire and match with the highest desires of others who are of the same vibration in that moment. It’s a living symphony.  
Seth 2016-03-28 13:34:03 [item 20707#50494]
well there are all kinds of excitement to follow and all kind of different kinds of people to follow them … and the following excitement does not always sync people up … er, witess what has been happening or umpteen times.   your crusading for it notwistanding.

different people getting into harmony is more likely to happen by each respecting the other’s frequency.  its not so much a getting on the same wavelength (as you yourself have observed) … it more a getting on a wavelength that compliments the other … rather than one that destroys the other. 

 
nathan 2016-03-28 13:40:13 [item 20707#50498]
It only looks that way when a majority involved are not following actual excitement. When all involved are, in fact, when even more than 50% are, it works … it simply works. I have seen it again and again.  

It is not the idea that is the difficulty, it is in people being able to tell what really is exciting for them. Our society suppresses that and teaches logic and duty and responsibility and class and culture and … so many things to replace excitement with that it is pure luck for most people to ever experience it other than highly amplified by sexual desire or extreme play.
Seth 2016-03-28 13:58:02 [item 20707#50504]
well i am all in with honing our excitements … that is a great rubric indeed !!!   … the more people do it, the more amazing this will become yesheart

but just as time and space are relative to our beings … so is what excites us.   Those excitements are subjective to each individual … they are not absolute and objectively given externally like Newton’s physics.
Excitement is an electro-chemical effect in the brain & nervous system … not Newton’s physics more like brain chemistry.  Some achieve it by cocaine others run into it through religious fervor, sex or  … each to his own.  I respect that you folks have your own metaprograms to achieve it & acknowledge that yours is different from mine & that my value system doesn’t have excitment at the top of my list, but yours does. 
thumbs up

Mark de LA says
nathan 2016-03-28 14:15:45 [item 20707#50517]

Grafitiphobia


Fear that the ideas, opinions, and artistic representations of others will spoil ones view of their carefully detailed reality.
Seth 2016-03-28 14:19:33 [item 20707#50521]
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LOA must have it because … it knocks it’s adherents off their high-flying disks so they have to go to sleep or talk themselves back into their own points of view. laughing watch the videos nate-dude.

Mark de LA says
Camo-lion 2016-03-28 16:51:03 [item 20707#50527]
Funny thingy in the 50’s & 60’s the political cry from the left was about integration & now it seems to be going in the opposite direction to otherness – still the challenges are about the individual versus the collective AND the lesser individual good & the greater good.  Assimilation is similar to integration .

 
Seth 2016-03-28 17:03:03 [item 20707#50528]
you might want to call it “respect for others”,  or simply “tolerance”.   i think assimilation,  integration,  and tolerance are alll necessary for our peoples to live together in relative piece and not be bombing children like happened in Pakistan over the weekend.  That kind of terrorism nobody will tolerate.  But copping a fear and an aug for the otheness of Muslims who are not involved in those killings is going to make the situation worse, not better.  Don’t forget for every action there will be a reaction.   Recently it came out that America probably has less terrorism just because the Muslim populations here are not subject to the attitudes prevalent in Europe.  Trump is wrong on that … Hillary is right …. ← just saying.
You still need to check out http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ – lots of interesting in depth study of the subject & the errors of your thinking about Mohammedanism (the name it had when we were growing up) .  Check out all of the subtopics like (*) & their Apostasy .  Lots of Koran references & scholarship would show to someone with an open mind that Trump is more realistic & Hillary, if her lips are moving is lying .← saying &
said!
smug

Mark de LA says
Seth 2016-03-28 13:09:33 [item 20707#50491]
respect for otherness is the same thing as learning to live with each other even when we are so very different.  … er, which i take it would happen when people are  encouraged to assimilate within their host culture. 
nathan 2016-03-28 13:14:33 [item 20707#50492]
Nope. That’s the way it has been tried for thousands and thousands of years. Won’t work the next time any more than it has worked the last umpteen times.

What will work is very very simple. Following excitement. That automatically schronizes people up perfectly and creates a harmonious high functioning society. This isn’t theory, it is the way quite a few other societies in the multiverse do function. You may or may not believe that. But in any case, I know you have seen the value in following excitement at times … simply imagine that out to be everyone doing it … everyone appearing at exactly the right time and right place to experience their own highest desire and match with the highest desires of others who are of the same vibration in that moment. It’s a living symphony.  
Seth 2016-03-28 13:34:03 [item 20707#50494]
well there are all kinds of excitement to follow and all kind of different kinds of people to follow them … and the following excitement does not always sync people up … er, witess what has been happening or umpteen times.   your crusading for it notwistanding.

different people getting into harmony is more likely to happen by each respecting the other’s frequency.  its not so much a getting on the same wavelength (as you yourself have observed) … it more a getting on a wavelength that compliments the other … rather than one that destroys the other. 

 
nathan 2016-03-28 13:40:13 [item 20707#50498]
It only looks that way when a majority involved are not following actual excitement. When all involved are, in fact, when even more than 50% are, it works … it simply works. I have seen it again and again.  

It is not the idea that is the difficulty, it is in people being able to tell what really is exciting for them. Our society suppresses that and teaches logic and duty and responsibility and class and culture and … so many things to replace excitement with that it is pure luck for most people to ever experience it other than highly amplified by sexual desire or extreme play.
Seth 2016-03-28 13:58:02 [item 20707#50504]
well i am all in with honing our excitements … that is a great rubric indeed !!!   … the more people do it, the more amazing this will become yesheart

but just as time and space are relative to our beings … so is what excites us.   Those excitements are subjective to each individual … they are not absolute and objectively given externally like Newton’s physics.
nathan 2016-03-28 14:04:06 [item 20707#50508]
Yes, that is true. But they don’t need to be objective. Because each of us is creating our own reality (individually object), and those realities can overlap any amount at any time including not at all and still have complete continuity of otherness, when we each follow our excitement we get overlapping harmony. In a venn driven universe this would not be possible, but in the real multiverse where overlap is entirely optional it is possible to have connection where it is in harmony, and can be experienced by anyone willing to put some effort into tuning excitement. 
Seth 2016-03-28 14:34:39 [item 20707#50523]
i don’t know … that seems too contrived and complicated for me to follow … too conceptual and even too just thinking.   i like simple and direct.  maybe throw in some magic … some play.  stand back, focus, breath in … lean forward … breath out … swim dancing with others doing that too
nathan 2016-03-28 17:48:58 [item 20707#50531]
It is not contrived, it is well earned and stable knowledge. And it is simpler than any traditional alternative you can offer. It’s only deterrent is that it is unusual, not what you know and expect. Your mind is not accustomed to thinking in this system, this map. But it is a clean and simple map, easy to understand on it’s own merit's and crosses with anyone’s own experience very easily. Once the newness and unusualness wears off, it is palatable and explains all that people commonly experience in a more satisfying and complete manner, with fewer holes, than the quote “flat world” map that has been the norm for a long period of world history.
Why don’t you folks move this stuff to LOA or a different post.  It is not really politics.  It really has nothing to do with the topic & is mere proselytizing on one person’s part.  pondering