Free Will

Some say that the human being is body, soul & spirit . The body follows physical laws, the spirit follows spiritual laws & the soul is completely free to experience whatever it desires; consequences notwithstanding in the other two bodies. It is all an integrated whole, but like a car or a computer it can be differentiated into identifiable parts.  For Example if N were to jump into a very active volcano, his physical body would soon follow the physical laws of becoming a crispy critter someday to  be discovered by some lucky archeologist if the Earth is still here. His soul would undoubtedly experience the physical disintegration plus the intellectual wisdom of such an experience, oncoming finality etc, maybe thoughts of death. Finally the Spiritual part might begin fervently to acquire or seek another body to experience the next choice of freedom available in it & perhaps process the life just finished rather quickly.
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Si says
nathan 2016-04-03 16:53:13 [item 20740#50764]
Interesting theory. Requires avid belief.
MR 2016-04-03 16:54:56 [item 20740#50765]
Try it, I don’t think it requires any belief at all. Can be done as soon as you find yourself on the edge of a volcano. 
MR 2016-04-03 17:03:13 [item 20740#50766]
One thing N’s not free to do!
Mauna-Loa  <--- Mauna Loa (smug)
nathan 2016-04-03 18:18:37 [item 20740#50767]
Since I have not spoken of my beliefs, how would you know? You can have the version of me you create in your verse do anything that matches with your beliefs. My experience will always differ. At no point will I ever experience exactly what you experience of me. I think you well know that.
MR 2016-04-03 18:20:50 [item 20740#50768]
No evidence you have done it yet! Let me know your schedule for doing it & I will take some pictures (telephoto) laughing
nathan 2016-04-03 19:39:22 [item 20740#50769]
Your missing the point. It’s your verse, your experience. Set it up any way you like. The version of me in all the multiverses that best matches your beliefs and experience will participate with you. That may or may not be the version of me you are experiencing right now … probably not. But if you would like to see me jump into Mauna Loa you can have that experience. If you want to see me do it and return, you can have that experience too … if your belief structure supports it.   
MR 2016-04-03 22:40:20 [item 20740#50773]
laughing Beliefs can be anything. Doing it is what makes it real. Take a selfie & post it in this world .
Yes, beliefs can be anything. That is why anything you want to experience is possible. Reality is your experience of it. As you experience, so you do. As you do, so you experience.

Mark de LA says
MR 2016-04-06 11:51:27 [item 20740#50903]
Beliefs are mind games about the meaning of stuff in life. If you like them I suppose you should keep them .  If you want more & questing the truthiness of yours then check out TR’s question tree to tease out a change from one set to an other set that is more empowering (still mind game, but maybe it won’t hurt or might be more fun) . I have most of the cert pub on the tool but may save it to generate a web page on it later.
nathan 2016-04-06 11:55:37 [item 20740#50904]
You have it backwards. It would be more truthful to say that the stuff in life is a reflection painted upon your beliefs. It would be more poetic too.   
MR 2016-04-06 12:04:59 [item 20740#50906]
& you would be deluded! Enjoy the self-glow or Image result for knot(kNOT) 
nathan 2016-04-06 12:19:40 [item 20740#50910]
You have said that or similar perhaps 20 times. You have never explained however. Whatever system it is you use to make such deluded statements from, it seems to stay entirely between your ears. pondering
MR 2016-04-06 12:23:38 [item 20740#50914]
Your deframes are getting more insulting. This is what inspires me to delete your stuff [see item 19344] 
nathan 2016-04-06 12:25:58 [item 20740#50916]
No insult intended. Clearly you used the word deluded, and the jab self-glow. I am only asking you to explain where you get these ideas from instead of just drive by barking a negative statement. 
MR 2016-04-06 12:42:46 [item 20740#50920]
No insult intended here on my part either – whatever you are confused about is entirely between your own ears – figure it out.
nathan 2016-04-06 12:48:25 [item 20740#50923]
You say specifically that I (and imply anyone) would be deluded if they were to believe “that the stuff in life is a reflection painted upon your beliefs”. Where do you get that from? It’s a pretty bold statement on your part. What do you back it up with?
MR 2016-04-06 12:50:09 [item 20740#50925]
I just reflected your deframe back to you. Enjoy the glow.
nathan 2016-04-06 12:51:37 [item 20740#50928]
Content please.
If mine was content free it reflected your content scarcity. Enjoy the glow.

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