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Mark de LA says
are you “creating them” … or just noticing them? There are lots of things are out that never come to our attention … but when we change our subjective kontext, we suddenly notice them. Try noticing how many girls carry their cell phones in their hand – now that i suggested that kontext to you, go forth and put more and more cell phones in girls hands.
The effect is true – the more negative we are inside, the more the outside will be negative. Now why is it that some people want that to mean that their inside created what they see outside? What kontext inside creates that belief?Did you read the whole article, buy some beads yet. Maybe it answers your question if you listen perfectly!
2016-04-24 09:46:51 [item 20848#51471]
These signs are an indication that your energy is headed towards (or currently stuck in) a low vibrational frequency. Your thoughts, feelings and actions are focused negatively, and this is creating unwanted circumstances.
ndrea Schulman – Guest writer from Raise Your Vibrations Today
are you “creating them” … or just noticing them? There are lots of things are out that never come to our attention … but when we change our subjective kontext, we suddenly notice them. Try noticing how many girls carry their cell phones in their hand – now that i suggested that kontext to you, go forth and put more and more cell phones in girls hands.
The effect is true – the more negative we are inside, the more the outside will be negative. Now why is it that some people want that to mean that their inside created what they see outside? What kontext inside creates that belief?

Mark de LA says
Yep, there are an uncountable number of things going on & amounts of stuff happening. Whatever that is does not involve all of us (at once) most of the time. In particular most of it doesn’t involve or apply to you & your desires & anti-desires or me & mine. Very little of it applies to more than one of us at a time. Realities, vibrations & experience are what I call munge-words (abstractions) – unspecified, uncharacterized words which defy specifics. The net then of the paragraph above is still stuff happening (& unhappening). 
2016-04-24 18:21:55 [item 20848#51475]
You don’t put cell phones in peoples hands. That would be as impossible as me creating your reality for you. There are an infinite number of parallel happenings. They all exist simultaneously. Your attention selects the one you experience, that is all. When your focus is on cell phones in hands you are a vibrational match for reality where cell phones are in hands. Realities still exist where most people do not carry cell phones in hands, but you will not experience those because that is not the reality your thoughts have lined you up to experience.

Seth says
Have you noticed how many people carry their cell phones in their hands in public? can you duplicate my experiment? will you report to me the results that you get? From those results what do you conclude?
Me, i am amazed by how many people i notice carrying their cell phones in their hands in public. From that surprising count i conclude that the behavior of a vast number of people has actually changed in recent years out of proportion to the number of cell phones sold. I rely on my objectivity to presume that the change is happening regardless of my observation of it. Several years ago, i did not notice this surprising count, but now that i notice it, i see it more and more. Now some of my notices may have happened just because i was looking for them to happen, whereas before i wasn’t even counting. Is the increase in my notices just proportional to the number of cell phones sold, or is a multiple of that due to people’s behavior changing? I believe, a social change is happening independent of my awareness of it … and now that i have noticed it, i see it more and more clearly. I have no evidence to believe otherwise.
You however talk as if all changes happen, and you merely selected the ones that you want. So, according to your belief, there is a verse where vast numbers of people have not started carrying their cell phones in their hands for instant and constanst access … and there is the verse where they have started carrying … and which one you experience is up to you.
So i am truly curious, what are you experiencing of this particular phenomena … and from your experiences what are you concluding?
2016-04-24 18:21:55 [item 20848#51475]
You don’t put cell phones in peoples hands. That would be as impossible as me creating your reality for you. There are an infinite number of parallel happenings. They all exist simultaneously. Your attention selects the one you experience, that is all. When your focus is on cell phones in hands you are a vibrational match for reality where cell phones are in hands. Realities still exist where most people do not carry cell phones in hands, but you will not experience those because that is not the reality your thoughts have lined you up to experience.
Me, i am amazed by how many people i notice carrying their cell phones in their hands in public. From that surprising count i conclude that the behavior of a vast number of people has actually changed in recent years out of proportion to the number of cell phones sold. I rely on my objectivity to presume that the change is happening regardless of my observation of it. Several years ago, i did not notice this surprising count, but now that i notice it, i see it more and more. Now some of my notices may have happened just because i was looking for them to happen, whereas before i wasn’t even counting. Is the increase in my notices just proportional to the number of cell phones sold, or is a multiple of that due to people’s behavior changing? I believe, a social change is happening independent of my awareness of it … and now that i have noticed it, i see it more and more clearly. I have no evidence to believe otherwise.
You however talk as if all changes happen, and you merely selected the ones that you want. So, according to your belief, there is a verse where vast numbers of people have not started carrying their cell phones in their hands for instant and constanst access … and there is the verse where they have started carrying … and which one you experience is up to you.
So i am truly curious, what are you experiencing of this particular phenomena … and from your experiences what are you concluding?
Seth says
Well that cartoon certainly dramatized my observation of the phenomena 
. In fact, does it not almost prove, that it is not just me selecting from all possible verses just the one wher people have started doing this so very much? Others are making this observation too.
I don’t know what you mean – “just a sorting metaprogram for selfies”. Now certainly cell phones are used to look at each other and even our selves from the outside. Beyond that, what else are you saying?
2016-04-25 08:44:26 [item 20848#51479]
mark, what is your distinction between “things happening, or not happening” and “things happening or unhappening”. Me, i have never seen a thing happen, and then unhappen … except perhaps in my memory. Is that the distinction to which you refer? How is that related to so many people carrying cell phones in their hands for instant and constant access?
2016-04-25 09:06:16 [item 20848#51480]
Unhappening reverses what happened . Nothing special about cell phone appearance. Cars showed up when the horse & buggy was waning. Once you have something you begin to notice who else has one. Some say it is a part of the brain that does the noticing – just a sorting metaprogram for the selfies. 



I don’t know what you mean – “just a sorting metaprogram for selfies”. Now certainly cell phones are used to look at each other and even our selves from the outside. Beyond that, what else are you saying?
Mark de LA says
Yep you just sorted my comment for the difference between yours & mine! Great illustration, thanks! 
2016-04-25 09:24:25 [item 20848#51482]
NLP metaprograms – sorting for sameness or difference or a combo. → (*) IMHO (which is neither) you tend to sort for difference first.
2016-04-25 09:39:07 [item 20848#51484]
for me it’s more sorting for what i expect to happen verses what i did not expect to happen. ← for me the latter takes precidence, the former is mostly ignored. it could be sameness, or differences ← for me it is really difficult to totally separate the two as the one almost creates the other.


Mark de LA says
Yep, we’re pretty much done here! Thanks for sharing.
2016-04-25 09:53:07 [item 20848#51486]
… or, that was the most important aspect of my comment to you … so you noticed it first.
obviously we “sort for” what is important to ourselves first … me, i interested in surprise and the sensing of others … you, well you tell me.
obviously we “sort for” what is important to ourselves first … me, i interested in surprise and the sensing of others … you, well you tell me.

Mark de LA says

← more evidence that others have noticed something is happening here.
Is there a universe where this is not happening?
You might be able to go there in your imagination.
Can you share an experience with anyone there?
I wonder if the judgementalism of an asshole is worth basing a whole theory on.
2016-04-26 08:31:00 [item 20848#51498]

← more evidence that others have noticed something is happening here.
Is there a universe where this is not happening?
You might be able to go there in your imagination.
Can you share an experience with anyone there?


Mark de LA says
I hold intuition as consciousness more penetrating than the 5-physical-sensed one (ordinarily used) with which logic & a rational world is comprehend. A well disciplined ordinary rational mind will avoid the pitfalls of superstition & religion & new-agey fads of beliefs & intuition will begin to show up which gets to the heart of matters.
2016-04-26 10:34:50 [item 20848#51520]
Sometimes it is superstition & sometimes it is intuition – the extremes are attenuated by stuff like reason & logic & consciousness well grounded. 

2016-04-26 10:48:45 [item 20848#51522]
to me “intuition” is subjective associations informed by persistent personal experience … whereas “superstition” lacks that … the experiences are not usually personal , rather they are stories told by a shaman. using logic to tell the difference is problematic because of the tendency to flim flam signs … so without the force of every A being identical to every other A, what people call “logic” becomes just their own subjective associations.

Mark de LA says
I like GW’s comments in the Tai Shu better: (P.2571) ~ 35.26 years ago & – creates a clear head & leans into more common sense .

I like GW’s comments in the Tai Shu better: (P.2571) ~ 35.26 years ago & – creates a clear head & leans into more common sense .


Mark de LA says
Yep, I prefer common sense to the nuthouse, your preferences notwithstanding.
2016-04-26 18:34:06 [item 20848#51543]
If common sense and a clear head is the experience you are here to have, then it clearly makes good sense. If you came to break dance and play video games then that makes just as good sense.
It’s your experience. Do what you please with it, GW’s desired experience notwithstanding.
It’s your experience. Do what you please with it, GW’s desired experience notwithstanding.



Mark de LA says
still
2016-04-26 14:49:46 [item 20848#51530]
Recounting more details of my experience would only be a story to you. You may believe some or all of it. You may not or may explain it with other ideas about what I am experiencing that your beliefs are able to handle. Thus it would only be entertainment.
If you truly want to know, do it. Don’t read about it. Don’t spin thought wheels about it. Take the red pill … do it.
If you truly want to know, do it. Don’t read about it. Don’t spin thought wheels about it. Take the red pill … do it.

2016-04-26 15:10:53 [item 20848#51533]
well i was suggesting a scientific approach … write down a method or recipe and if it is accurately represented and others can reproduce it, then it belongs to the objective world that we can share. otherwise, as you observe, it will be just a story to me, … and as we are aware anyone can make up any story whatsoever … there really are no restrictions.
you see i am noticing the characteristics of my subjective internal world … compared to the objective external world that I can share and where results are reproducible. it is so very easy to go all subjective … or even to go the other way, all objective.
my subjective world has all the qualities that you are describing of yours. all of them … even thought some i have not encouraged like you have and so they have atrophied. if you understand what i have been saying, you will also understand the choices i have made in my life in this regard. I find it silly, and even a little bit annoying, for you to continually suggest that your choices for you, should be my choices for me, oblivious as you are to just about 99.9999 % of my experience.
you see i am noticing the characteristics of my subjective internal world … compared to the objective external world that I can share and where results are reproducible. it is so very easy to go all subjective … or even to go the other way, all objective.
my subjective world has all the qualities that you are describing of yours. all of them … even thought some i have not encouraged like you have and so they have atrophied. if you understand what i have been saying, you will also understand the choices i have made in my life in this regard. I find it silly, and even a little bit annoying, for you to continually suggest that your choices for you, should be my choices for me, oblivious as you are to just about 99.9999 % of my experience.
2016-04-26 16:02:11 [item 20848#51536]
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2016-04-26 16:24:46 [item 20848#51537]
There is nothing scientific about beliefs. They are highly personal, like fingerprints. Thus why things like the LOA have not been able to be studied scientifically even though they have been around for ages, all the ages. If you want to be able to do these things, then do them. Start and then achieve. Thinking about these ideas or trying to prove them with an external methods such as science will give different results for every different person who does such … exactly as the science so far has proceeded. However, each person who actually does these things will achieve the same result … i.e. their reality will become tuneable by their thoughts. Each person will recognize this in their own individual way and be sure about the happening, even though comparison of results with others will seem to be just another story. That is how it would work if each person was creating their own reality … which of course, they are … hence the consistent results.
2016-04-26 16:50:02 [item 20848#51541]
“There is nothing scientific about beliefs.” That’s why beliefs should be shunned as suspicious & taken with a grain of salt.
2016-04-26 18:23:43 [item 20848#51542]
And how’s that working out for you?

2016-04-27 00:29:19 [item 20848#51546]
Just fine! I destroyed yet another couple the last few days.



2016-04-27 14:12:48 [item 20848#51573]
Well, since beliefs can only be replaced, not destroyed, you seem to be talking about something else.
2016-04-27 14:31:01 [item 20848#51581]
That’s your belief. It is similar to when a lie is exposed – no longer has any power – I call that destroyed. Maybe you would like to put the pieces in the middle of your manure pile & compost it a bit & use the word transformation . your choice or not. 

2016-04-27 14:34:24 [item 20848#51584]
It is not similar. If it can be dissipated by being exposed then it is in fact a lie, not a belief. You are apparently confusing lies with beliefs.
2016-04-27 14:35:51 [item 20848#51586]
Believing something that is not true is believing a lie.
2016-04-27 14:38:12 [item 20848#51587]
You cannot believe something that is not true. If you truly believe it, then it is true. That is what makes a belief a belief. You still seem to be talking about lies, not beliefs. They are not the same fundamental things.
2016-04-27 14:40:58 [item 20848#51589]
I call that horseshit. 
2016-04-27 14:44:31 [item 20848#51590]
if you use my conception of subjective truth, then you will find that Nathan’s statement is true … believing it is true is all you get … nothing more do you ever have. it is quite distinct from telling a lie.
2016-04-27 14:46:40 [item 20848#51591]
Subjective truth is also 
2016-04-27 14:47:25 [item 20848#51592]
well then go with what you can share … 


Seth says
yes on that we are together … mark being the odd man out
2016-04-26 14:49:46 [item 20848#51530]
Recounting more details of my experience would only be a story to you. You may believe some or all of it. You may not or may explain it with other ideas about what I am experiencing that your beliefs are able to handle. Thus it would only be entertainment.
If you truly want to know, do it. Don’t read about it. Don’t spin thought wheels about it. Take the red pill … do it.
If you truly want to know, do it. Don’t read about it. Don’t spin thought wheels about it. Take the red pill … do it.

2016-04-26 15:10:53 [item 20848#51533]
well i was suggesting a scientific approach … write down a method or recipe and if it is accurately represented and others can reproduce it, then it belongs to the objective world that we can share. otherwise, as you observe, it will be just a story to me, … and as we are aware anyone can make up any story whatsoever … there really are no restrictions.
you see i am noticing the characteristics of my subjective internal world … compared to the objective external world that I can share and where results are reproducible. it is so very easy to go all subjective … or even to go the other way, all objective.
my subjective world has all the qualities that you are describing of yours. all of them … even thought some i have not encouraged like you have and so they have atrophied. if you understand what i have been saying, you will also understand the choices i have made in my life in this regard. I find it silly, and even a little bit annoying, for you to continually suggest that your choices for you, should be my choices for me, oblivious as you are to just about 99.9999 % of my experience.
you see i am noticing the characteristics of my subjective internal world … compared to the objective external world that I can share and where results are reproducible. it is so very easy to go all subjective … or even to go the other way, all objective.
my subjective world has all the qualities that you are describing of yours. all of them … even thought some i have not encouraged like you have and so they have atrophied. if you understand what i have been saying, you will also understand the choices i have made in my life in this regard. I find it silly, and even a little bit annoying, for you to continually suggest that your choices for you, should be my choices for me, oblivious as you are to just about 99.9999 % of my experience.
2016-04-26 16:02:11 [item 20848#51536]
?
2016-04-26 16:24:46 [item 20848#51537]
There is nothing scientific about beliefs. They are highly personal, like fingerprints. Thus why things like the LOA have not been able to be studied scientifically even though they have been around for ages, all the ages. If you want to be able to do these things, then do them. Start and then achieve. Thinking about these ideas or trying to prove them with an external methods such as science will give different results for every different person who does such … exactly as the science so far has proceeded. However, each person who actually does these things will achieve the same result … i.e. their reality will become tuneable by their thoughts. Each person will recognize this in their own individual way and be sure about the happening, even though comparison of results with others will seem to be just another story. That is how it would work if each person was creating their own reality … which of course, they are … hence the consistent results.
2016-04-26 16:50:02 [item 20848#51541]
“There is nothing scientific about beliefs.” That’s why beliefs should be shunned as suspicious & taken with a grain of salt.
2016-04-26 18:23:43 [item 20848#51542]
And how’s that working out for you?

2016-04-27 00:29:19 [item 20848#51546]
Just fine! I destroyed yet another couple the last few days.



2016-04-27 14:12:48 [item 20848#51573]
Well, since beliefs can only be replaced, not destroyed, you seem to be talking about something else.
2016-04-27 14:31:01 [item 20848#51581]
That’s your belief. It is similar to when a lie is exposed – no longer has any power – I call that destroyed. Maybe you would like to put the pieces in the middle of your manure pile & compost it a bit & use the word transformation . your choice or not. 

2016-04-27 14:34:24 [item 20848#51584]
It is not similar. If it can be dissipated by being exposed then it is in fact a lie, not a belief. You are apparently confusing lies with beliefs.
2016-04-27 14:35:51 [item 20848#51586]
Believing something that is not true is believing a lie.
2016-04-27 14:38:12 [item 20848#51587]
You cannot believe something that is not true. If you truly believe it, then it is true. That is what makes a belief a belief. You still seem to be talking about lies, not beliefs. They are not the same fundamental things.
2016-04-27 14:40:58 [item 20848#51589]
I call that horseshit. 
2016-04-27 14:44:31 [item 20848#51590]
if you use my conception of subjective truth, then you will find that Nathan’s statement is true … believing it is true is all you get … nothing more do you ever have. it is quite distinct from telling a lie.
2016-04-27 14:46:40 [item 20848#51591]
Subjective truth is also 
2016-04-27 14:47:25 [item 20848#51592]
well then go with what you can share … 

2016-04-27 14:53:53 [item 20848#51594]
Yes, exactly Seth. Belief is as far as we can go.
Anything beyond that is only imagination … something we imagine is probable.

2016-04-27 15:00:43 [item 20848#51596]
i am not so very sure that “belif is as far as we can go”. many, if not most, sharing transactions happen regardless of the beliefs we have about them … some sustain our very lives … others encourage … others discourage … others developed possibilities quite independent of any subjective beliefs held in their regard. sharing is a direction out of a subjective pit. it is a swing towards the objective. there is a time to exhale.
2016-04-27 15:25:11 [item 20848#51601]
Well, you said “believing it is true is all you get”. I meant the same thing. The rearranging of the words a bit did not change that meaning.

Seth says
Yes. I have done experiments which prove that is true many times. I have even shifted experience's right in the middle of the experience to an entirely different representation of the experience. That has been one of my favorite things to do lately. Noticing how many people have cell phones in their hand is not very interesting to me. The kind of things that interest me are things like being in Mc Donalds on a rainy day, deciding that I want it to be sunny right now, doing the energy work to align with that happening, walking into the restroom and taking a piss, walking out and it is sunny. That is an actual experiment I did yesterday.
I have been playing with this aspect of reality a lot.
Understanding that all these things are there, happening, in parallel, makes finding the alternative vibrations very easy. Not believing that would make such things hard … because then you would have to do something to change your experience instead of simply tuning your radio dial to an alternate frequency.well things heal, even in my psyche … in this case i take credit for the healing myself … to do it i just change some of my beliefs, for example below ...
the changes we put into thinking domains were intended to make them attractive and useful to more people than just myself and mark. but that did not happen. for it to happen, it will take a network of people cooperatively contributing to the development – not just you. But as it stands now, with you ignoring all matters abou the project, it is just me. So it seems i must give up the original intention. ← oh well, there are lots of ways for me to swim in the world, no problem, just part of the drama, and not even related to you or your philosophy. but yes, the “fiesty ness” that you subjectively expected in me, is probably due to that.
2016-04-26 08:41:36 [item 20848#51499]
“You however talk as if all changes happen, and you merely selected the ones that you want. So, according to your belief, there is a verse where vast numbers of people have not started carrying their cell phones in their hands for instant and constanst access … and there is the verse where they have started carrying … and which one you experience is up to you.”
Yes. I have done experiments which prove that is true many times. I have even shifted experience's right in the middle of the experience to an entirely different representation of the experience. That has been one of my favorite things to do lately. Noticing how many people have cell phones in their hand is not very interesting to me. The kind of things that interest me are things like being in Mc Donalds on a rainy day, deciding that I want it to be sunny right now, doing the energy work to align with that happening, walking into the restroom and taking a piss, walking out and it is sunny. That is an actual experiment I did yesterday.

Understanding that all these things are there, happening, in parallel, makes finding the alternative vibrations very easy. Not believing that would make such things hard … because then you would have to do something to change your experience instead of simply tuning your radio dial to an alternate frequency.
2016-04-26 10:12:17 [item 20848#51517]
well i would be interested in detailed records of your experments … without which it is just a story to me.
i too have experienced wanting a sunny day, and then seeing the clouds lift. i have no radio dial, to change what is outside (though i can well imagine that i do). Yet i can change my kontext inside and that frequently changes what i notice outside. Over the years i have gotten better and better at doing that … now it is part of how i swim. But if everything possible happens outside, and it is just a matter for me to navigate to which … then nothing really happens outside of any value in relation to myself, rather it is all just me ← kind of brooring really. So that is something that i have chosen not to believe. I even remember a most dramatic time i made that choice. It’s a grueling story, i have told before .. with no provocation i won’t tell it again.
i too have experienced wanting a sunny day, and then seeing the clouds lift. i have no radio dial, to change what is outside (though i can well imagine that i do). Yet i can change my kontext inside and that frequently changes what i notice outside. Over the years i have gotten better and better at doing that … now it is part of how i swim. But if everything possible happens outside, and it is just a matter for me to navigate to which … then nothing really happens outside of any value in relation to myself, rather it is all just me ← kind of brooring really. So that is something that i have chosen not to believe. I even remember a most dramatic time i made that choice. It’s a grueling story, i have told before .. with no provocation i won’t tell it again.
2016-04-26 10:29:30 [item 20848#51519]
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2016-04-26 14:01:43 [item 20848#51528]
You do have a dial. It is your thoughts. What you actually think about more than 50% tunes you to a particular happening, and very quickly in these new times. You know what your thoughts have actually been by what actually happens. You can, with simple practice, notice and tune your thoughts. You will always know what your thoughts are actually on by what happens.
Right now, very few of your thoughts are yours, your design, a match to your desires. They are just default thoughts happening and thus so is most of your life. You are mainly an observer. That can be completely changed by simple paying attention to your thoughts and the resulting feelings and happenings. You can dial in your thoughts as simply as changing the dial on a radio, if you want to. It is a facility we all have that most people rarely use.
Right now, very few of your thoughts are yours, your design, a match to your desires. They are just default thoughts happening and thus so is most of your life. You are mainly an observer. That can be completely changed by simple paying attention to your thoughts and the resulting feelings and happenings. You can dial in your thoughts as simply as changing the dial on a radio, if you want to. It is a facility we all have that most people rarely use.
2016-04-26 14:48:36 [item 20848#51529]
Some of my thoughts i make up myself and believe them … some from others also ring true. My current thoughts, feelings, senses, and habits become my subjective kontext … those are inside me … they are internally private and absolutely prone to my own subjective interpretations. to move to new possibilities and experiences my kontext interacts with the world of others. it swims, dances, writes, talks, cooks, farms, conducts transaction … but always with others … always with and against a real external world. i seek to move my internal kontext anchored in the world … not anchored in my internal subjective self. that is my long standing choice in life, see “A swing to the objective ...". the dial you mention is turned by my actions and what others actually do.
The story, youtubes, and memes that you tell do not describe my world. They are your subjective kontext, perhaps your experience, not mine. What evidence do you have that your stories, or even you experience, generalizes to me?
The story, youtubes, and memes that you tell do not describe my world. They are your subjective kontext, perhaps your experience, not mine. What evidence do you have that your stories, or even you experience, generalizes to me?
2016-04-26 14:53:24 [item 20848#51531]
It can all work that way. But it can also be much simpler. Thoughts become things. Reality is truly that simple and you can verify this for yourself if you set out to do so instead of rationalizing about it. Your trying to study the moon through a telescope. If you really want to study the moon, go there and experience it. In this case, the moon is in your own backyard.

2016-04-27 07:15:46 [item 20848#51549]
a fine story i am sure … paint the picture in more detail … show it to me, if you dare.
Yet my thoughts are not things that you can share … unless you actually do listen to my words … and the mooon is not in my backyard even metaphorically.
Yet my thoughts are not things that you can share … unless you actually do listen to my words … and the mooon is not in my backyard even metaphorically.
2016-04-27 14:04:51 [item 20848#51572]
Your missing about everything I said.
2016-04-27 14:14:26 [item 20848#51575]
well you assume i missed it … but i am not really so sure that i did, for i read it quite carefully, over and over again, and even later in another day.
i chose not to focus on the things that you said there that just pander to the representations of differences in what we believe … i did not see any sense in doing that … it would be just more RWG … which as you know is disgusting to me … even though I completed a entire comment doing just that and then thought better of sharing it with you.
Rather i decided to focus on what of your comment could possible ever be shared between us.
i chose not to focus on the things that you said there that just pander to the representations of differences in what we believe … i did not see any sense in doing that … it would be just more RWG … which as you know is disgusting to me … even though I completed a entire comment doing just that and then thought better of sharing it with you.
Rather i decided to focus on what of your comment could possible ever be shared between us.
2016-04-27 14:22:56 [item 20848#51578]
Okay. Your not following along the with the train of thought though, so in essence, this thread is completed.
2016-04-27 14:27:00 [item 20848#51579]
actually i followed it quite thourally … your presumptions to the contrary. now obvouly our timings are off and the sequences of grocks and points of views are different … but you have been away and oblivous to trains of thoght here … especially mine … so maybe you can respect that your subjective conclusions may not objectively obtain beyond just your own desired experience.
2016-04-27 16:04:29 [item 20848#51614]
You seem a bit feisty. Is there a problem?
the changes we put into thinking domains were intended to make them attractive and useful to more people than just myself and mark. but that did not happen. for it to happen, it will take a network of people cooperatively contributing to the development – not just you. But as it stands now, with you ignoring all matters abou the project, it is just me. So it seems i must give up the original intention. ← oh well, there are lots of ways for me to swim in the world, no problem, just part of the drama, and not even related to you or your philosophy. but yes, the “fiesty ness” that you subjectively expected in me, is probably due to that.
Mark de LA says
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2016-04-28 11:09:56 [item 20848#51650]
Maybe people just don’t want to think!
Did you ever ponder whether these long winded exchanges would make facebook, for example, a success? The spread of instant communication & the rise of ADD may be related. How successful is Nate’s domain Play Nexus Playground in spreading? How many users?



2016-04-28 11:40:50 [item 20848#51660]
well my personal proclivity to expressing thoughts publicly and expecting those to be truly combined with the thoughts of others … may well be just my little thingey. it does happen … but it happens rarely. It does not help to associate it with dreams of “success” … rather i let it remain just my personal drama … if others pick up on it, great … i go with what happens … that will not conflict with me doing my drama, from my own be ing … it is what i do … the world can take it or leave it. the relationship of that to the computer network is the new surprising thing that is happening on the earth. that is what matters to me. that is what i want to be keenly aware of.
2016-04-28 11:47:32 [item 20848#51662]
So a success metric might be sticky cyber molecules per second (
) rather than user count. Makes it a bit hard to monetize until a critical mass of molecules explode into an enterprize.


2016-04-28 11:59:05 [item 20848#51664]
real growth and monitization do not necessarily happen together. look at twitter.
2016-04-28 12:00:59 [item 20848#51667]
Not if advertizement is part of the package? huh?

2016-04-28 12:04:49 [item 20848#51670]
well my conceptions of thinking domain’s niche was that it would NOT be supported by advertisements. i think that mechanism has been tapped out and is almost part of problem.
2016-04-28 12:07:51 [item 20848#51672]
Subscription ? LOL on the Internet. People do not like to pay for stuff like opinions. Maybe you are just a world philanthropist of the mind – no monetization needed. 





2016-04-28 12:32:02 [item 20848#51676]
not subscription … that is not even working for the NYT. i was thinking of revenue from leasing the domains themselves as the most immediate. Then maybe if the value of the interaction became more apparent … crowd funding and or philanthropy.
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