to be elaborated …
← which is not the lie
Now #IDoNotKnow, maybe he said that somwhere, but if he did not, then i claim that is his lie.
The nirvana obtained by the Buddha is meaningless to me.
but about anything there was only ever that one unique #thingey itself within its unique context … it was unrepresenteable.
“Buddah Lied” → you can not have his #nirvana … there was only just that one and he got it
- buddah lied
- relative truth
- absolute truth
This “insult” does hinge upon …
… which i presume mark was saying ironically … yet it still #RingTrue to me.
meaning is not absolute.
Go back to where I created the quote or just munge on & let it all all disperse – perhaps a meeting w/ #choronzon (link) where #Egoo also disperses along with YOU!
← maybe Buddha laughs & laughs & laughs .
Well #choronzon may well have some bearing here. I put Crowley’s quote on the term.
but let me propose a thought here … and i do not vouch for its veracity …
… nevertheless i have thunk it.
the #AbsoluteTruth firmly hold, may be but #choronzon bedazziling your #Egoo
I think you munged together two things which are separate . Choronzon may bedazzle & then pull the rug out from under your bedazzlement, but has nothing to to with truth or absolute truth. IMHO of course.
ahhh … but examine his words … even literally …. me thinks they are clear enough … [emphasis mine] ...
so is he not talking about what to you might appear to the meaningless #association of #signum to #sign by some individual ? I mean meaninglessness is meaninglessness. if #choronzon is to stand for and take credit for that bedazzelment … well then let it do so consistently.
The Abyss is empty of being; it is filled with all possible forms, each equally inane, each therefore evil in the only true sense of the word—that is, meaningless but malignant, in so far as it craves to become real.
Think of it as the anti-Seth, anti-Bozo, anti-sum …...
#humm assuming that by “it” you mean #choronzon … i might find your thought quite false indeed … but would have to think about that …
I look at #choronzon (a lack of meaning) as the grand #HeatSink of the world … sorry for the physical metaphor, but it matches. …. As such, yes, it is against me as my courage acts upon the world creating meaning there where it did not already exist.
Of course ! You would have to.
well #ac is saying the Abyss, personified by “Choronzon”, is full of things with no meaning who “crave to become real” and shriek “I am I” … which is “evil in the only true sense of the word”.
Your interpretation is peculiar.
I claim i have met this spirit myself at some intense moments of my life. I behold the most miscule, inane, and meaningless items … like dust particles on my jail cell floor … or pebbels on the ground in Montana … and focus on their meaning, forcing it. The qualia is had to descirbe in words … and that is not quit it … but that was what was happening in me at those moments.
your interpertation does not hold together syntactically. you are not even taking a complete sentence.
The sentence, taken as a whole, could roughfly be translated to …
things with no meaning, craving to become real, are evil in the only true sense of the word.
sounds like you are starting to #MakeShirtUp about me. I simply cannot get your interpertation from #ac’s words. And no i do not “know quite well that #ac does not believe in basic evil” … seems more to me that he is its master … but to be honest i have not delved deep enought into Crowlyism to know for sure.
I’ll go you folks one bigger & declare good doesn’t exist either!
well, i think i will go somwhere else … i truly do not like to hang out in thoughts where people are up on their self righteous #HighHorsey #MakeShitUp about me from their own, to me, meaningless innane #smegma’s inside their souls. ← a good example of the #evil personified by #choronzon in fact
Maybe there is no existence! Maybe even “that which is – IS!” is a lie. (Gods Must Be Crazy)
Also reason is a lie; for there is a factor infinite & unknown; & all their words are skew-wise. (Liber Legis II,32 -Aiwaz)
Like I said somewhere else in other words if we quit talking about each other maybe something interesting could evolve at fbi & the #RWG shrink down to nothing – perhaps like a stale fart reflecting in a hall of mirrors lost in a leaky wind tunnel.
fun, if aimless, talk about Choronzon though ← good
Hiding does not make Choronzon go away .
He does not exist!
hiding has nothing to do with making Chorizon go away … has to do with me not wanting to engage with nathan rubbing his shit on me … any more than i want to engage with mark, rubbing his shit on me.
i finally put what i meant by “Buddha’s lie” in the body of this thought. I do think that it can be related to Chorizon … and i would love to discuss it objectively outside of this subjective horseshit that started happening here.
New #Sethie sounds like #Highhorsey to me #HighHorse ← (#GoodThough)
BTW, not believing something or beliving in something does not necessarily make it go away or destroy its existence; perhaps only making the one who declares “I don’t believe in …..” a little less believable.
This is my thought here folks … and the subject of it is not me … nor is it you … nor is it Buddha.
Rather it is about Nirvana … in particular any one person’s experience of that. My claim is that person’s experience of Nirvana is meaningless to me … and by extrapolation every person’s experience of Nirvana is irrelivant to anybody else.
Anything that is not about that is #OT and subject to being case into oblivion in relation to my thought here.
why? … how is your #FU to me about #nirvana ?
Maybe now you understand my tirades against #graffiti . One more thought ← though , ever think what Buddha might think about your own tirade were he a blogger here? Maybe he would just say:
well this thought here is an example of sticking to a subject. of focus. so far all of your guys have been brings up shit that is outside of the nexus of this thought.
which is the “True story” nathan ?
Denying Nirvana just means you have not yet arrived at/had that state of consciousness – doesn’t make it go away for those who do or did.
well i do not deny Nirvana. i just deny that your Nirvana or Buddah’s Nirvana has any meaning to me … or even to my Nirvana … and certainly nothing to do with the consciousness between us.
the point is not whether i can see it or not. the point is that it has nothing to do with us being conscious.
i guess you realize how frequently that message is used by #shamen … and in the end how hollow and self serving it continues to ring.
← quite. that is your story. mine is different.
and sure, #KeepingItReal, #authentic, i will tell you guys that i get 1 or 2 mini #gestalts on the best of days, which i could if i wanted call #MiniNirvana’s or #enlightenment’s if it served me to do so. In me they do not sustain … that is just me. I then continue chopping wood … mark knows what i mean. But i do not value them as you folk seem to … to me they have nothing to do with our consciousness … they are meaningless to that …. they have nothing to do with what happens that we share … and that is who i am … that is who i choose to be … that is my #nexus .
The #MiniNirvana’s are fun and all and i love to have them … but they are just for me. i just do not glorify and treat them like perls (the way #shamen seem to want me to) … because, guess why? …. i know to you guys out there they are quite just #scatoma in the Abiss of #choronzon. Unlike Buddha, i will not lie to you about that.
#LOL … and you of course seem to know that is not me … how? …. you will not tell me for your own self serving reasons.
you are repeating your own #HighHorsey to me … beginning to soud like #RubberDuckerSuckerFucker
Talking about each other again. How boring.
yeah folks … watcH out !! … we are in the hall of mirrors here.
well, #Doah, it is something that i am #authentic’ly saying … of course it is “all one big #Sethie” .
that others say of the same subject, “Nirvana”, different things is all just their “---ie” too
well it is true that #RS might call it “the guardian of the Threshold”
That nathan thinks out loud to me that “I am not ready” is his “----ie” and not mine
well you are right there indeed! though you use peculair examples . loving another person or #thingey would be more appropriate. but #HellYes let’s go with your story.
In the reality that i have constructed, Nirvana’s do not fuck each other … either good sex or bad sex. or maybe if they do, i would call it bad sex … the shadow of what you are trying to do to me right now …. er, #Egoo sex.
and guess what … that is exactly what #ac and #GW did.
#hmmm … so suddenly it is just me talking to myself … #shucks i guess i imagined that you were actually saying something to me. in your wierd wierd peculair world i guess you actully do believe that.
#Sigh … the #hallOfMirrors … i’m going to go get an illustration.
#hmmm … i am confused now … who are you talking about again?
well, mark, i don’t know about the “have to” part … that seems to be you implying something about me. But i am curious … how do you do it differently … how do you deal with inane things in the world that have no meaning to you?
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