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Mark de LA says
Ranger Tigger 2016-06-27 07:41:36 [item 21050#53521]
I am saying the things that are true to me. I am not judging what is true for you and I know and accept your truths can be different. I simply respond, in good dialog, with my perspectives. I don’t call you wrong … I say what is true for me and move along. Sometimes you do that too. Other times you seem to feel that your truth is being threatened. It is not, at least not by me, I allow your truths, but some truth you consciously hold may be known wrong by your own inner being and that discrepancy inside your self will generate many different kinds of negative emotions that you will experience.  
A solipsistic world is uninteresting to me.  If that’s all you got idgaf. I can make up shit all on my own.laughing

Mark de LA says
Mark de LA 2016-06-21 10:03:46 [item 21050#53167]
Even Robert Anton Wilson talks about “the net” in the ‘70s in Cosmic Trigger – great book.  I like in particular how he uses the first person as just a point of view describing different of his own personalities.  You & he probably agree a lot. 
Seth 2016-06-21 10:48:05 [item 21050#53169]
hmmmm ...
Mark de LA 2016-06-21 11:58:44 [item 21050#53170]
He also takes coincidence to a whole new level beyond you, N & LOA! smug
Ranger Tigger 2016-06-26 20:01:46 [item 21050#53507]
Apparently he and I agree a lot … about the multiverse.
 

So much for "reality" as a noun. The notion that "reality" is singular, like a hermetically sealed jar, does not jibe with scientific findings which, in this century, suggest that "reality" may better be considered as flowing and meandering, like a river, or interacting, like a dance, or evolving, like life itself.

- Robert Anton Wilson

Mark de LA 2016-06-26 23:12:59 [item 21050#53508]
? Yeah he has quite a munge of everything, extra terrestials, flying saucers, the whole Illuminati conspiracy, is what he is writing about .   I haven’t got to the end yet, maybe half-way through. He changes viewpoint or personality similar to our author thingy here. Can’t yet figure out how much he believes or who actually believes what .  Good reads anyway because it is about times I have memories for as well. 
Ranger Tigger 2016-06-27 03:59:55 [item 21050#53510]
Would it matter how much he believes or who actually believes what? Is it not your beliefs that determine and create your experience? Wouldn’t it be better to ask if there are any beliefs in the book that are exciting to you? Anything you are drawn to?

It’s not about what is true. Everything is true. It’s about what you want to experience. What beliefs do you actually like? Which ones tickle your fancy and sound fun?  
Mark de LA 2016-06-27 06:32:59 [item 21050#53511]
Beliefs are all in the past.  New experience is what is exciting. Everything is true is a massive confusion. That would make truth worthless.
Ranger Tigger 2016-06-27 07:03:39 [item 21050#53512]
It would not make truth worthless at all. It would make truth priceless. Then you own it. Then it’s your truth that matters to you. It’s your truth that generates your experience and that you bounce off of when you are not aligned with truth. It makes truth a solid thing that you can directly relate to with your feelings instead of some mishmash of things that everyone puts in and tries desperately to get to be the same without ever succeeding.

Beliefs are not things in the past, they are the structures upon which your current experience is being built. You may have chosen a belief, directly or by default, in the past, but it is operating now, generating the experience you are having at this moment.
Mark de LA 2016-06-27 07:11:42 [item 21050#53513]
Maybe retract your everything is true bs. then. If everything is true then a lie is true.
Ranger Tigger 2016-06-27 07:33:20 [item 21050#53517]
I don't play in RWG because I understand that different points of view are both true. The RWG game can only be played when all parties agree to arrive at only one truth for all. :) 
Mark de LA 2016-06-27 07:35:48 [item 21050#53519]
The I AM RIGHT game is part of the RWG – see item 1722 if you failed to grasp that. That’s a game you are seriously involved in.
Ranger Tigger 2016-06-27 07:37:10 [item 21050#53520]
Yes, I understand. I guess I am not as versed in your names, that’s all. But the basics of what I am saying are sound.  
1722 notes that I got the distinction in a seminar with Michael Hadley.  I have been using it here for years. Even Bozo has the distinction. The zen part of making it wrong is part of the game & still to be mastered by most of you.

Si says
Mark de LA 2016-06-27 07:18:05 [item 21050#53514]
For a person playing the “I’m Right Game” (left wing of the RWG) the ultimate trump card is 
 

Everything is True
   -N

Ranger Tigger 2016-06-27 07:31:03 [item 21050#53515]
As I have said elsewhere, a lie is only one thing. A deliberate misrepresentation of what one knows is true, one’s own truth. A lie is not one person’s truth verses another person’s truth. Those are simply both true. But if a person deliberately misrepresents what they know is true, then that is a lie.
Mark de LA 2016-06-27 07:32:49 [item 21050#53516]
declaring something which not true, a falsehood or whatever ….
Ranger Tigger 2016-06-27 07:34:51 [item 21050#53518]
How can you declare something which is not true? Either you know it is true, or you don’t, or you are unsure of how you feel about it. If you do feel it is true and you declare it is not, then you are lying, yes!  
Mark de LA 2016-06-27 08:06:59 [item 21050#53524]
Lots of people make shit up & look to see if it will stick to someone else’s  wall laughing
Yes, so? If you know that your truth is yours then you don’t have to do anything with that other stuff except look at it on the wall and decide if you like the art or not. It would only mean something to you if you think you have to share some one truth with them.

And don’t they do it mostly because they are operating under the idea that there is one truth for everyone too, and trying to have some control over their experience? If they knew it was true and that it was okay for them to have their own truth, then they would not be making things up. They would just be saying what was true for them.  

Mark de LA says
Lot of they in there.  I recommend that this item → group pellick . They made  a movie of it ponderinglaughing