Coincidence
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For example how i found my knife which had been lost for almost a week. I said out loud so that Denise could hear, “I guess i will never find my knife”, then i reached into the back pocket of my blue jeans and there coincidentally was my knife. Denise and i analized this happening, form various points of view, in minute detail. Which analysis is available on demand perhaps in comments.
Another coincidence happened last weekend. We were driving down Strander boulevard thinking about the failing appliances we were working on replacing. We had seen several advertisements for Albert Lee. I said to Denise something to the effect, “We should pod for Albert Lee, there must be one about here or in Seattle”. At that moment i looked on the left side of the street and coincidentally there it was.
I could chronicle more examples and perhaps will, but suffice it to say that many such coincidences have happened in my life, and by extension of the principle of charity, i presume happen in your lives too. Some are more coincidental than others. My inquiry is not to determine if they are actually to be deemed coincidental, or even why they happen. That they i am aware of their coincidentalness when they do happen is not even of my concern. Rather my question is, when i notice them happening, of what should i take their happening as evidence of. What do they mean to me? What belief or gestalt should i take my awareness of their coincidentally happening as confirmation?
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For example how i found my knife which had been lost for almost a week. I said out loud so that Denise could hear, “I guess i will never find my knife”, then i reached into the back pocket of my blue jeans and there coincidentally was my knife. Denise and i analized this happening, form various points of view, in minute detail. Which analysis is available on demand perhaps in comments.Another coincidence happened last weekend. We were driving down Strander boulevard thinking about the failing appliances we were working on replacing. We had seen several advertisements for Albert Lee. I said to Denise something to the effect, “We should pod for Albert Lee, there must be one about here or in Seattle”. At that moment i looked on the left side of the street and coincidentally there it was.
I could chronicle more examples and perhaps will, but suffice it to say that many such coincidences have happened in my life, and by extension of the principle of charity, i presume happen in your lives too. Some are more coincidental than others. My inquiry is not to determine if they are actually to be deemed coincidental, or even why they happen. That they i am aware of their coincidentalness when they do happen is not even of my concern. Rather my question is, when i notice them happening, of what should i take their happening as evidence of. What do they mean to me? What belief or gestalt should i take my awareness of their coincidentally happening as confirmation?
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Seth says
i could tell a story that “Coincidence” contradicts “[thought 10259]” … hmmm … the closest still existing public thought to which is “Things are not always what they seem” ← which omg 
is prime.
so fastblogit did make a bozomic connection to a story that i can tell. but i am not so very sure i want to tell it
i could tell a story that “Coincidence” contradicts “[thought 10259]” … hmmm … the closest still existing public thought to which is “Things are not always what they seem” ← which omg is prime. so fastblogit did make a bozomic connection to a story that i can tell. but i am not so very sure i want to tell it
Seth says
cool .. whatever …
i didn’t know my wet noodle would have provoked that response which did not mirror anything inside of me … i did not create it … to me it is quite otherness ← example notification to group nathan.
2016-06-23 12:50:40 [item 21058#53313]
2016-06-23 12:56:19 [item 21058#53314]
Don’t know exactly what that means.
You can tell any story. Telling it causes it to exist. Pushing it into your reality mirror (doing the wet noodle push) queues it up for you to experience. Two stories can not exist at the same moment (coincidence) for one being to experience (at least not at our skill and experience level) but any story can be pushed in in any moment of now. Momentum causes story elements of like vibration and time sequence to be queued in next, but there are ways to reduce momentum and even overcome it completely (trama for instance).
You can tell any story. Telling it causes it to exist. Pushing it into your reality mirror (doing the wet noodle push) queues it up for you to experience. Two stories can not exist at the same moment (coincidence) for one being to experience (at least not at our skill and experience level) but any story can be pushed in in any moment of now. Momentum causes story elements of like vibration and time sequence to be queued in next, but there are ways to reduce momentum and even overcome it completely (trama for instance).
2016-06-23 13:06:43 [item 21058#53316]
Is any coincidence that Bozo doesn’t know how to spell the word coincidence or has SHe (*) made up Hir own spelling for Hir own word? or something else?
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=coinsidence
*Editor's note: Dr. Leary prefers the forms SHe (she or he) and Hir (his or her) to
the traditional habit of referring to the general human being as masculine.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=coinsidence
*Editor's note: Dr. Leary prefers the forms SHe (she or he) and Hir (his or her) to
the traditional habit of referring to the general human being as masculine.
2016-06-23 13:15:12 [item 21058#53318]
… i do too 
… and what happened was that my spelling mistake was fixed even before i read your spell check
Was my spelling error a coincidence … perchance … but not an important on in relation to what happened. Now your connection of something here with the traditional habit of refering to general human beings as “he” rather than what i have been doing, refering to them as “she”, is … according to bozo … quite a coincidence. What story can you tell regarding that particular coincidence? ← this is not rhetorical question … me, i would actually be interestied in the story you come up with.
… and what happened was that my spelling mistake was fixed even before i read your spell check
Was my spelling error a coincidence … perchance … but not an important on in relation to what happened. Now your connection of something here with the traditional habit of refering to general human beings as “he” rather than what i have been doing, refering to them as “she”, is … according to bozo … quite a coincidence. What story can you tell regarding that particular coincidence? ← this is not rhetorical question … me, i would actually be interestied in the story you come up with.
2016-06-23 13:29:26 [item 21058#53319]
Sorry, dude I did not need to come up with a story. Some things I do just cuz I want to. Some things I do to introduce mirth, a dearth of which prevails here. If you had asked where I got the quote, I would have replied Wilson’s Cosmic Trigger (footnote p21).
← Wrong way to et chicken 
← Wrong way to et chicken i didn’t know my wet noodle would have provoked that response which did not mirror anything inside of me … i did not create it … to me it is quite otherness ← example notification to group nathan.
Mark de LA says
Yep, your pontification & mind-reading is about as much fun to read for me as my mirth is to you – just saying 
2016-06-23 13:44:39 [item 21058#53321]
Mark: “Some things I do to introduce mirth”
Mirth: amusement, especially as expressed in laughter.
That may be the reaction you tell yourself and others you are going for Mark, but the meaning of your communication is the result you get, and more often than not the result you get when you do things “to introduce mirth” is not mirth, but a defensive reaction out of the other as if you just attacked. I don’t believe you are ignorant of this. I believe you realize this at a deeper level and do it anyway to keep things like RWG going … to keep controversy and tension active between you and others. And my expectation for the reason for that is that the controversy and tension keeps your inner core safe and allows you to feel like you are in control … yep, I go out on a limb and present that educated guess about you.
Just saying.
Mirth: amusement, especially as expressed in laughter.
That may be the reaction you tell yourself and others you are going for Mark, but the meaning of your communication is the result you get, and more often than not the result you get when you do things “to introduce mirth” is not mirth, but a defensive reaction out of the other as if you just attacked. I don’t believe you are ignorant of this. I believe you realize this at a deeper level and do it anyway to keep things like RWG going … to keep controversy and tension active between you and others. And my expectation for the reason for that is that the controversy and tension keeps your inner core safe and allows you to feel like you are in control … yep, I go out on a limb and present that educated guess about you.
Just saying.
Mark de LA says
Music for a wet noodle.
2016-06-23 13:52:13 [item 21058#53324]
I have no expectation you will find it fun. I have a desire that it will sink in, allow you to see the way you bully people, and perhaps be nicer and treat people with authentic joy. FBI would be much better, more productive, fun, and a nicer place for others to visit if you didn’t confuse mirth with attack.
Music for a wet noodle.
Seth says
well the hall of mirrors does obtain in my story regarding my use of “ ← ” ← thanks for apparently grocking my wet noodle … but “brains” does not ← “brains” is something that it appears you are arbitrarily (un-coincidentally?) connecting to “wet noodles” perhaps for the sake of your mirth (not mine). ← a bridge too far almost certainly which we can share ←
2016-06-23 13:50:21 [item 21058#53323]
Your wet noodles ← sometimes a slang word for brains – are pointer exceptions for me most of the time. Similar for you, I suspect, as the pink fart down a hall of mirrors.
… but “brains” does not ← “brains” is something that it appears you are arbitrarily (un-coincidentally?) connecting to “wet noodles” perhaps for the sake of your mirth (not mine). ← a bridge too far almost certainly which we can share ←
Seth says
ok … i made a mistake … i thought it was mark who said “misplaced mirth effect” and not nathan. carryhing on two trains of thought with two different people can become confusing … which i what i think happened here.
2016-06-23 15:02:00 [item 21058#53327]
thanks for the AKI-RA … i needed that .
i am actually curious mark, …. nathan seems to have grocked “The Wet Noodle Effect” and started using it as it was meant in my story. you however call its usage “pointer esceptions” and mock it as “brains” ← which slang usage i don’t even get ← not that it matters. so now my wet noodles got pushed into some people’s stories and not others. how is that even possible if those are reflections of my doing? am i not detecting your obstinance, which is otherness to me? what actually is happing here that we can share? ← me reaching our loud, don’t expect this to hang well on your wall.
.i am actually curious mark, …. nathan seems to have grocked “The Wet Noodle Effect” and started using it as it was meant in my story. you however call its usage “pointer esceptions” and mock it as “brains” ← which slang usage i don’t even get ← not that it matters. so now my wet noodles got pushed into some people’s stories and not others. how is that even possible if those are reflections of my doing? am i not detecting your obstinance, which is otherness to me? what actually is happing here that we can share? ← me reaching our loud, don’t expect this to hang well on your wall.
2016-06-23 15:03:31 [item 21058#53328]
I call that the misplaced-mirth effect.
2016-06-23 15:05:42 [item 21058#53330]
ok … aka, sombody not getting your joke … kind of like it was told by a wet noodel, eh?
2016-06-23 15:11:07 [item 21058#53331]
Wasn’t really a joke. It’s a thing. A couple of threads on it today.
Seth says
was chunking (private thought) ?
i guess you didn’t notice how much i got out of your chunking ← even thought i was virtually shouting about it. you seemed to resent that i used it in my own story … tried to combined it with that … or at least that is what has stuck in my mind.
time is a funny thing and a lot of the mirth about it relates directly to coincidence. a mystery, that me, i am not afraid to fathom.
2016-06-23 15:02:00 [item 21058#53327]
thanks for the AKI-RA … i needed that .
i am actually curious mark, …. nathan seems to have grocked “The Wet Noodle Effect” and started using it as it was meant in my story. you however call its usage “pointer esceptions” and mock it as “brains” ← which slang usage i don’t even get ← not that it matters. so now my wet noodles got pushed into some people’s stories and not others. how is that even possible if those are reflections of my doing? am i not detecting your obstinance, which is otherness to me? what actually is happing here that we can share? ← me reaching our loud, don’t expect this to hang well on your wall.
.i am actually curious mark, …. nathan seems to have grocked “The Wet Noodle Effect” and started using it as it was meant in my story. you however call its usage “pointer esceptions” and mock it as “brains” ← which slang usage i don’t even get ← not that it matters. so now my wet noodles got pushed into some people’s stories and not others. how is that even possible if those are reflections of my doing? am i not detecting your obstinance, which is otherness to me? what actually is happing here that we can share? ← me reaching our loud, don’t expect this to hang well on your wall.
2016-06-23 15:03:31 [item 21058#53328]
I call that the misplaced-mirth effect.
2016-06-23 15:05:42 [item 21058#53330]
ok … aka, sombody not getting your joke … kind of like it was told by a wet noodel, eh?
2016-06-23 15:14:31 [item 21058#53333]
When we were kids they told us “use your noodle” when all we had to do was think a bit about something. Such is validated here: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Use+Your+Noodle Otherwise the urban dictionary definition #5 attests to the same usage. Then too:
If you stand under a poodle you might get a wet noodle
2016-06-23 15:21:00 [item 21058#53337]
ok thanks for clarifying. but i still call that a irrelevant association. it gets in the way. i would not go with it, if i were you even thought it might make you laugh. can you understand why it doesn’t make me laugh?
2016-06-23 15:37:16 [item 21058#53340]
Yeah! you are too fucking serious. I remember putting a lot of thought into the time chunking thingy 21017 & you guys fucked with it so much I had to withdraw from it. I guess I lost my sense of humor there
too.
too. 2016-06-23 15:37:44 [item 21058#53341]
That was a prime too!
i guess you didn’t notice how much i got out of your chunking ← even thought i was virtually shouting about it. you seemed to resent that i used it in my own story … tried to combined it with that … or at least that is what has stuck in my mind.
time is a funny thing and a lot of the mirth about it relates directly to coincidence. a mystery, that me, i am not afraid to fathom.
Seth says
– for precarious metaphors.cool animation
2016-06-23 15:57:36 [item 21058#53348]
Yewp .. thing is you didn’t get the point I had at all. Some day I may resurrect the body of it without any of the comments & have a go at it again. When I get 
2016-06-24 08:30:31 [item 21058#53380]
okay, quite possibly i did not get your wet noodle.
2016-06-24 08:35:48 [item 21058#53382]
I don’t do things with wet noodles except put pasta sauce over them, maybe a bit of sausage & eat them.
2016-06-24 08:37:05 [item 21058#53383]
← (not ) .
what do you do with metaphorical wet noodles?
) . what do you do with metaphorical wet noodles?
2016-06-24 08:57:53 [item 21058#53384]
– for precarious metaphors. 2016-06-24 09:01:27 [item 21058#53385]
Maybe pin it down a bit more by nailing Jello to a wall, eh?
2016-06-24 09:10:34 [item 21058#53387]
← whatever … er, not funny over here. maybe because its not subtle enough within the context.
2016-06-24 09:15:24 [item 21058#53388]
… the WHATEVER LOOP PREVAILS 
Si says
MM effect
2016-06-24 09:17:11 [item 21058#53390]
incidentally there are ways out of the loop.
2016-06-24 09:35:19 [item 21058#53392]
Yep! Whatever . Maybe drive off the bridge.
. Maybe drive off the bridge.
Seth says
yes i think so 
2016-06-23 12:50:40 [item 21058#53313]
2016-06-23 12:56:19 [item 21058#53314]
Don’t know exactly what that means.
You can tell any story. Telling it causes it to exist. Pushing it into your reality mirror (doing the wet noodle push) queues it up for you to experience. Two stories can not exist at the same moment (coincidence) for one being to experience (at least not at our skill and experience level) but any story can be pushed in in any moment of now. Momentum causes story elements of like vibration and time sequence to be queued in next, but there are ways to reduce momentum and even overcome it completely (trama for instance).
You can tell any story. Telling it causes it to exist. Pushing it into your reality mirror (doing the wet noodle push) queues it up for you to experience. Two stories can not exist at the same moment (coincidence) for one being to experience (at least not at our skill and experience level) but any story can be pushed in in any moment of now. Momentum causes story elements of like vibration and time sequence to be queued in next, but there are ways to reduce momentum and even overcome it completely (trama for instance).
2016-06-23 13:09:05 [item 21058#53317]
hmmm … interesting what you are doing there.
i think two stories can exist at the same time within me … it makes for turbulence … so were i not in the mood for such, i will naturally (habitually) try to calm the waters … that is where i should go to the anchors with my wet noodle … seeing which one best binds to what is happening that i can share with another … we might call that the scientific method … which seems quite different than the LOA method. it favors shared happening over internal story, for which there are so very many.
i think two stories can exist at the same time within me … it makes for turbulence … so were i not in the mood for such, i will naturally (habitually) try to calm the waters … that is where i should go to the anchors with my wet noodle … seeing which one best binds to what is happening that i can share with another … we might call that the scientific method … which seems quite different than the LOA method. it favors shared happening over internal story, for which there are so very many.
2016-06-23 16:01:44 [item 21058#53350]
I have many stories all the time. All exist and become available for all to draw on as material for otherness when their attention is upon me, but only one happens, becomes my experience, for each other, as far as I know, only one becomes part of their happening, not always the same one that became mine.
2016-06-24 02:04:33 [item 21058#53361]
Or shorter yet
There is rarely just one answer to a question.
2016-06-24 04:37:41 [item 21058#53362]
I think you are still looking at the whole thing from the perspective of one uni-verse. One same experience. It’s not like that. There is one answer for me in any moment. My answer. And there is one answer for you. Your answer. They can match, if we desire that, but they do not have to. Each of us will experience the answer we are in alignment with … not two. We can be aware of more than one, but our experience will be only of one.
2016-06-24 08:16:33 [item 21058#53379]
backing up a bit … i agree, only one thing happens. i am just saying that with me, i can be going with multiple stories as that one thing happens … and when that happens, i experience turbulence. that seems to be consistent with what nathan is saying too, except that it sounds like nathan has a stronger focus and so all but one of his stories gets shutteled off into what he calls a different universe. and that is consistent with mark’s “there is rarely just one answer to a question”.
To nathan these are different uni-verse(s) … but to me they are just differnt contexts. For a long time i have noticed that most of nathan’s sentences about multiverses ring true to me, if i just substitute my word “context” for his word “verse”.
To nathan these are different uni-verse(s) … but to me they are just differnt contexts. For a long time i have noticed that most of nathan’s sentences about multiverses ring true to me, if i just substitute my word “context” for his word “verse”.
2016-06-24 10:50:31 [item 21058#53409]
Different word same concept?
Seth says
well to be clear it seems that *you* discovered the MM Effect … but that has yet to be integrated in any others verse of which i am personally aware … an important discover nonetheless. mark has kind of gone silent, perhaps since your discovery … that might be coincidentally related … or LOA related … i have no idea … a bridge quite too far for me and i’ll let it stay there.
but this is now and that was then and my inquiry here still wants to happen. consequently am waiting for the moment when i can find a appropriate thought to which to move what to this one is static and the ability easily to make it so.
2016-06-30 09:28:37 [comment 21058#53805]
the problem with this thought is that almost all of the commentary that it collected have absolutely nothing to do with “Coincidence”.
2016-06-30 09:32:18 [comment 21058#53806]
Maybe because what you describe as Coincidence in the thought is actually LOA hard at work, doing it’s natural thing, and wanting to steal the show here too.
2016-06-30 09:36:39 [comment 21058#53807]
well yes … there is no doubt that coincidence and LOA go together like white on rice
… some of the characteristics of which form the basis of my inquiry.
but that had nothing to do with the RWG that this inquiry collected. the RWG … er, from my point of view, relative to my contexts and verse … was a distracting static that drove away an illusive gestalt.
… some of the characteristics of which form the basis of my inquiry.
but that had nothing to do with the RWG that this inquiry collected. the RWG … er, from my point of view, relative to my contexts and verse … was a distracting static that drove away an illusive gestalt.
2016-06-30 09:40:47 [comment 21058#53808]
Well, the LOA stuff is super well established for the events you relate. Not much more interesting than “the sky is blue”. However, this is where we discovered the MM Effect and THAT was a huge uncovering. Right here it tells what Mark is doing and why it is not getting the result he claims. It’s the start of a dialog that has spanned many thoughts now.
but this is now and that was then and my inquiry here still wants to happen. consequently am waiting for the moment when i can find a appropriate thought to which to move what to this one is static and the ability easily to make it so.
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