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About: Wasted Efforts - comment 57428

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There is no edge to what can be different between what I experience of you and what you experience of you. They will always be at least some different, and that slider can go all the way to completely different. That there are often some things that are the same is something we agree upon, co-create, it is not a fact of anything or required by anything other than that our beliefs select it to be so.

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Seth says
i have to fork that one because we are in harms way here.  

i have read your first sentence now about 20 times and i almost got it, but not quite.  If you said, “There is no edge to what can be different between what I experience of you and what you experience of you.” then that is demonstrably false … at least to myself. 

For example the taste of this coffee in my mouth now.  That is something that i experience and you do not.  Hence there is an edge there.  But if you actually are experiencing the taste of coffee in my mouth … could you describe it … then i will tell you if your description matches my experience or not.  There is a currently a peculariaity to this taste of coffee in my mouth.  Can you describe that particular peculiarity?  If you can, then i might start to believe you.  If you cannot, or just dodge or igore that you cannot, well then how can i take what you are saying to me as honestly truthful even over there?

But when you add that extra, “what can be different between” in your sentence, i really cannot parse it … sorry too confusidly complicated for the likes of simple me.  Maybe you could say it differently and i would get it.
the toothless foodie mixing something up with you

Si says
There is simply no edge to the difference between our two experiences. Common knowledge assumes there is some edge, some place where the differences we experience transition into some common reality that exists independantly. That is not the case, there is no such edge. The slider can be moved from “some differences” all the way to “everything is different” without a stop (edge) on the slider.

Seth says
hmmm …. okay i think i might know what you are saying and agree … but i want to look at it after my context changes a bit again … then perhaps say it from my perspective.  so i will go into my business day, things doublessly will change.

Seth says
okay @nathan,  i think i see what you mean … we are each of us in a bubble of our own experience … and there is no edge where my experience meets your experience within each of our bubbles.  as such i would say that my slider switch is all the way to the left saying “everthing is different” … my qualia are not your qualia … there is no place where my qualia blend with yours.   from that perspective  it seems we agree.

but that totally ignores that we communicate to each other through our senses and out deeds.  it is in that dimension where what we share meets and becomes a common pattern.

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