Hands Up Don't Shoot

In the spirit of #FairWitness i ask …

What was “hands up don’t shoot” ?

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Mark de LA says
This appears to be focus on the meme rather than the event that caused the the meme:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hands_up,_don%27t_shoot#Origin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hands_up,_don%27t_shoot#Criticism ← opportunity for #FairWitness

#racism juice persists

don’t confuse anyone with the facts!

Seth says
Yes … the question is …

what is the complete pattern in which that meme was created?

seth

thanks for the clarification, @mark.

and thanks for the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hands_up,_don%27t_shoot#Origin .

I think that is the best #fariwitness that answers the question at hand that we have so far.

In the spirit of #FairWitness can we improve upon that?

Seth says
In the spirit of #FairWitness, why should this →

be connected to the question at hand ?

Mark de LA says
It is one of the factors begging for a #FairWitness to resolve the question.

Seth says
it appears to me to be some kind of group judgement, with an #aug, associated by that group to aspects of the subject at hand. As such i think it should be excluded from consideration here.

Mark de LA says
contrary-wise it is the root of the problem cueing the judgement contrary to facts for its own purpose.

Mark de LA says
#aug used as a #race-card here!

Seth says
“#racism juice persists” ← is a judgement by you while participating in the #FairWitness process.

But #FairWitness’s do not judge.

Including your judgement is not being a #FairWitness.

Mark de LA says
👍

Mark de LA says
& yet it is still part of the problem begging for fair-witnesses which the picture demonstrates is not happening.

Seth says
good, then please remove it from the record here and i will suppress this comment thread.

Mark de LA says
nope – do it yourself – I WILL NOT BE CENSORED !

Seth says
incidentally your judgement is not part of the question at hand.

Seth says
but you are corrupting, by your own admission, the very process that you are requesting.

Mark de LA says
your picture is a judgment – your words are judgment – it is all part of what an Ego is & does (see GW) or someone else. There is good judgment & bad judgment – don’t make judgment a dirty word.

Mark de LA says
… & So you are arguing – see thought 16178

AND judging! Good dude!
see thought 16681

Mark de LA says
Depends upon your focus …. your item started out on a protest march. A #FairWitness would focus on that . What’s so is the march of people. What’s so is people organizing it. What’s so is the conversations both in the crowd & the marchers. What’s so is police behavior during the event. What’s so for fairwitnesses is what should I witness? The tree is damned near infinite although the butterfly effect is probably over exaggerated . In Heinlein the fair-witnesses seemed to be involved from a point-of-view of the law. Could explore what context is interesting to unhacking the brain.

Seth says
yes, everything that happened that is part of the “already named pattern” should be included in the witnessing.

but none of our own judgements or feelings or intentions should be included for us to be #fariwitnesses.

Mark de LA says
This is that oxymoronic dilemma – neither of us is a #FairWitness to that event. Furthermore all we can do is speculate about M$M reports. Furthermore ^2 we can only witness the particular thought stream on this particular item & comment – this fastblog event – not the news item here – see how the ontology works here.
therefore
I am done here.
going to the farmers market now.

Mark de LA says
Conversation forked to thought 21538

Mark de LA says
Conversation forked to thought 21539

Mark de LA says
Apparently you want to fillibuster your own comments & not consider what a fair witness is – Phooey! Your item thought 21537 is about #unfairwitness #sos and #mainstreaming #asusual

& as you misspelled it before #fairywitness