Today There is no Source for the Unvarnished NEWS !
Even if you read all of the associated articles (often more than 1000) on one headline in Google News you are not likely to find the unvarnished news. Where facts and information is missing today’s reporter supplies rumor, speculation and occasionally flat out lies! Lots of reporters get paid by the count of words. Can you imagine what computer programmers could do if they were paid by the lines of code they write?
I want just the objective facts. It might also be nice to indicate what facts are missing rather than issuing the same or different headline & articles with the same crap in them. I am over-burdened by having to scan so many lines of crap just to get to the details of what happened somewhere. Often the headlines which roped me in to reading an article in the first place have very thin tethering to the facts further on in the article itself.
Reading news is a waste of my time!
The all powerful meme "If it bleeds - it leads" SUCKS ! This meme distorts the perception of reality through the mainstream media. If we were to believe this morning’s headlines there is an excess of murders, murderers being executed, Democrats & Republicans fighting each other dividing the country & roadside bombs in Iraq. The news-front then, like a weather front, is spreading depression in waves across the country; being akin to Katrina in it’s devastation.
What’s the solution?
I read an article last night, written by my father in a different era The area I am going to quote is about the essence of money as a vote.
" Money in the industrial or business State is equivalent to what the Vote is in the political state. The little child with it’s single penny possesses one vote, that is to say, it can vote to say whether or not any given person shall remain in business, it can say whether or not any given article shall be manufactured & distributed, it can say whether or not it thinks that any given merchant’s method of doing business is correct, humane & profitable, it can say whether the manufacturer is efficient and so forth & so on. Every penny is one vote which can build or destroy any given or selected house of business or mercantile corporation. This is the true purpose and function of MONEY & when Money is used for its true purpose poverty disappears, from the business world, & prosperity returns & these returns are INCREASING, not diminishing as some vain professors imagine. " - C.F.R. February 26, 1936.
True capitalists are the SELECTIVE SPENDERS who take the pennies stamped with their own spiritual marks consecrated to the highest purpose & aspirations of the human race & vote with them for the best products, businesses & merchants. With your eyeballs, your click-throughs, your patronage of advertisements, your purchases & conversations select the news & products which are aligned with the truth and the highest aspirations of the human race - don’t waste time & money on the rest.
#SelectiveSpending
I want just the objective facts. It might also be nice to indicate what facts are missing rather than issuing the same or different headline & articles with the same crap in them. I am over-burdened by having to scan so many lines of crap just to get to the details of what happened somewhere. Often the headlines which roped me in to reading an article in the first place have very thin tethering to the facts further on in the article itself.
Reading news is a waste of my time!
The all powerful meme "If it bleeds - it leads" SUCKS ! This meme distorts the perception of reality through the mainstream media. If we were to believe this morning’s headlines there is an excess of murders, murderers being executed, Democrats & Republicans fighting each other dividing the country & roadside bombs in Iraq. The news-front then, like a weather front, is spreading depression in waves across the country; being akin to Katrina in it’s devastation.
What’s the solution?
I read an article last night, written by my father in a different era The area I am going to quote is about the essence of money as a vote.
" Money in the industrial or business State is equivalent to what the Vote is in the political state. The little child with it’s single penny possesses one vote, that is to say, it can vote to say whether or not any given person shall remain in business, it can say whether or not any given article shall be manufactured & distributed, it can say whether or not it thinks that any given merchant’s method of doing business is correct, humane & profitable, it can say whether the manufacturer is efficient and so forth & so on. Every penny is one vote which can build or destroy any given or selected house of business or mercantile corporation. This is the true purpose and function of MONEY & when Money is used for its true purpose poverty disappears, from the business world, & prosperity returns & these returns are INCREASING, not diminishing as some vain professors imagine. " - C.F.R. February 26, 1936.
True capitalists are the SELECTIVE SPENDERS who take the pennies stamped with their own spiritual marks consecrated to the highest purpose & aspirations of the human race & vote with them for the best products, businesses & merchants. With your eyeballs, your click-throughs, your patronage of advertisements, your purchases & conversations select the news & products which are aligned with the truth and the highest aspirations of the human race - don’t waste time & money on the rest.
#SelectiveSpending
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Comments
Mark de LA says
seth 2005-12-02 10:19:49 2201
You may want "just the objective facts", however every observation is tainted by the observer. But i agree, attention is important, what you pay attention to is what happens to you, and what we pay attention to is what happens collectively in our shared world. So watch what you are watching; if it sucks, then chances are, you are contributing to making our culture suck.
It may or may NOT be possible to get objective observation. It depends a lot on the condition of the sensors (the 5 senses & more) that are placed at the scene of an event taking place. All that I ask is that the observer giving an account be aware of the condition of his senses & report on them as well as what they convey to him in the way of information about what is going on. Honesty in the observation process is what is called for. If this is not possible then the scientific method is a farce! And yet we know that science produces some great things so some of it must be genuine. In objectivity I am asking that more than one observer should be able to agree what the content of an observation is/was.
Your statement
Your statement
So watch what you are watching; if it sucks, then chances are, you are contributing to making our culture suck.
is absurd! 
My attention does NOT cause what I am looking at (except perhaps in the most zen perspective) NOR does my evaluation that it sucks cause it to suck - think again - clear your sensors.
My attention does NOT cause what I am looking at (except perhaps in the most zen perspective) NOR does my evaluation that it sucks cause it to suck - think again - clear your sensors.
Seth says
You may want "just the objective facts", however every observation is tainted by the observer. But i agree, attention is important, what you pay attention to is what happens to you, and what we pay attention to is what happens collectively in our shared world. So watch what you are watching; if it sucks, then chances are, you are contributing to making our culture suck.
You may want "just the objective facts", however every observation is tainted by the observer. But i agree, attention is important, what you pay attention to is what happens to you, and what we pay attention to is what happens collectively in our shared world. So watch what you are watching; if it sucks, then chances are, you are contributing to making our culture suck.
Seth says
Mark 2005-12-02 12:47:18 2201
Your statement
So watch what you are watching; if it sucks, then chances are, you are contributing to making our culture suck.
is absurd! My attention does NOT cause what I am looking at (except perhaps in the most zen perspective) NOR does my evaluation that it sucks cause it to suck - think again - clear your sensors.
My attention does NOT cause what I am looking at (except perhaps in the most zen perspective) NOR does my evaluation that it sucks cause it to suck - think again - clear your sensors. Your paraphrase of what i actually said is inaccurate. You reacted to your interpertation of what i actually said rather than what i said. This is an interesting case that illustrates my point. Note that my comment used the important term "sucks" and that is a dead ringer that implies that i am talking abou a subjective evaluation of something, not an fact which could be recorded scientifically and aggreed on by many observers.
Mark de LA says
So exactly what did you mean by the quoted comment with the word "sucks" in it. I used the literal meaning. Should I be using something that YOU did not put in the sentence ?
So exactly what did you mean by the quoted comment with the word "sucks" in it. I used the literal meaning. Should I be using something that YOU did not put in the sentence ?
Seth says
source: seth's words above
So watch what you are watching; if it sucks, then chances are, you are contributing to making our culture suck.
The meaning of "sucks" is best gleaned by a sampaling of it's usage, may i suggest google sucks. The sentence is pointing to, and was inspired by, the sentiment experssed in your words:
I just generalized it a bit removing some of the nested assumptions that rubbed me the wrong way. You choose the direction your attention: if everything you see sucks, then you are using "your eyeballs, your click-throughs, your patronage of advertisements, your [selection of] purchases & conversations and the news & products" to encourage that which sucks in our culture.
source: mark's words above
With your eyeballs, your click-throughs, your patronage of advertisements, your purchases & conversations select the news & products which are aligned with the truth and the highest aspirations of the human race - don't waste time & money on the rest.
I just generalized it a bit removing some of the nested assumptions that rubbed me the wrong way. You choose the direction your attention: if everything you see sucks, then you are using "your eyeballs, your click-throughs, your patronage of advertisements, your [selection of] purchases & conversations and the news & products" to encourage that which sucks in our culture.
Mark de LA says
Well, in that case we are both on the same page
Well, in that case we are both on the same page
Mark de LA says
I still like to state things in the positive. I choose the ancient values of truth, beauty & goodness as my values for what I want to have around me & for the rest of humanity. (This is what I am voting for, whether the rest of humanity likes it or not!) I think it is incumbent upon each person to be conscious of what he is patronizing when he spends his money & what kind of a world he is creating by doing so.
Sometime soon I will propose some kind of service or website that can help us further decide which are the good ones & which are the bad ones. Ideas like this are some kind of a start.
I still like to state things in the positive. I choose the ancient values of truth, beauty & goodness as my values for what I want to have around me & for the rest of humanity. (This is what I am voting for, whether the rest of humanity likes it or not!) I think it is incumbent upon each person to be conscious of what he is patronizing when he spends his money & what kind of a world he is creating by doing so.
Sometime soon I will propose some kind of service or website that can help us further decide which are the good ones & which are the bad ones. Ideas like this are some kind of a start.
Mark de LA says
Please note here I want to get beyond just "This doesn't SUCK" as my criteria.
Mark de LA says
Something like The Millionth Circle may also be a good direction. I put it here just for a bookmark & probably disagree with their politics.
Seth says
source: 2201
Sometime soon I will propose some kind of service or website that can help us further decide which are the good ones & which are the bad ones. Ideas like this are some kind of a start.
I take it that the "us" in your sentence is some kind of group variable. I doubt that i would be an instantiantion of that variable, as i doubt that a staunch conservitive such as yourself would be agreeing very often with a staunch liberal such as myself as to what is and what is not good.
Mark de LA says
seth 2005-12-04 08:47:32 2201
I take it that the "us" in your sentence is some kind of group variable. I doubt that i would be an instantiantion of that variable, as i doubt that a staunch conservitive such as yourself would be agreeing very often with a staunch liberal such as myself as to what is and what is not good.
My alignment is what's true, beautiful & good. My politics in
substantially conservative although my conservatism is stronger
in the economic domain than the social domain. What is your alignment?
Moral relativism ?
Of course "us" always means those who are aligned with what I am aligned.
Of course "us" always means those who are aligned with what I am aligned.
Mark de LA says
Hate is a very special meme which spreads rapidly see the folks at Bring_It_On for a taste or go to a google search of their site here.
Mark de LA says
This item could stand some triage. Nevertheless, there is a lack of useful consolidated information on companies to make good vote & decisions on spending. One possible point of view is presented by www.DivestTerror.org which provides information on companies that deal with state sponsors of terrorism. They publish the dirty dozen (top 12) list of companies doing business with Iran & others. Notice there is a publication on this site that shows how the 50 state governments also do business with such state sponsors of evil.
source: ... "Terrorism Investments of the 50 States" is the first national security-based statistical analysis of the investment patterns of America's public pension funds. This report proves empirically that this nation's largest and most prominent public pension systems tend to be heavily invested in global publicly traded companies that have business activities in terrorist-sponsoring states.
... NOT sponsoring indirectly terrorism is just one of the desiderata for selective spending.
Mark de LA says
This would pretty much devastate the scientific method or science itself! Kewl!
seth 2005-12-02 10:19:49 2201
You may want "just the objective facts", however every observation is tainted by the observer. But i agree, attention is important, what you pay attention to is what happens to you, and what we pay attention to is what happens collectively in our shared world. So watch what you are watching; if it sucks, then chances are, you are contributing to making our culture suck.
This would pretty much devastate the scientific method or science itself! Kewl!
Seth says
Mark 2005-12-04 10:19:30 2201
seth 2005-12-04 08:47:32 2201
I take it that the "us" in your sentence is some kind of group variable. I doubt that i would be an instantiantion of that variable, as i doubt that a staunch conservitive such as yourself would be agreeing very often with a staunch liberal such as myself as to what is and what is not good.
My alignment is what's true, beautiful & good. My politics in substantially conservative although my conservatism is stronger in the economic domain than the social domain. What is your alignment? Moral relativism ? Of course "us" always means those who are aligned with what I am aligned.
Of course "us" always means those who are aligned with what I am aligned. Interesting interchange we had 7 years ago in the light of the one today.
Today i would not term myself "a stanch liberal" anymore ... maybe an enlightened libertarian ... i don't know. I still find much of today's "staunch conservationism" a misguided enamouration of the all mighty sovereignty of the bloody $$$.
You piss on "moral relativism", probably because you don't truly understand it; and probably because you believe there is that pesky "the" in a true reference to "the good".
I do, however, like your sentence: "Of course "us" always means those
who are aligned with what I am aligned" ... that is good and true to me
as well. However i hasten to add that those who are not with us, are
not necessarily against us, nor are they necessarily wrong, bad, evil,
or otherwise gooks.
Today i would not term myself "a stanch liberal" anymore ... maybe an enlightened libertarian ... i don't know. I still find much of today's "staunch conservationism" a misguided enamouration of the all mighty sovereignty of the bloody $$$.
You piss on "moral relativism", probably because you don't truly understand it; and probably because you believe there is that pesky "the" in a true reference to "the good".
I do, however, like your sentence: "Of course "us" always means those
who are aligned with what I am aligned" ... that is good and true to me
as well. However i hasten to add that those who are not with us, are
not necessarily against us, nor are they necessarily wrong, bad, evil,
or otherwise gooks.
Seth says
MR 2012-03-25 07:48:56 2201
This would pretty much devastate the scientific method or science itself! Kewl!
seth 2005-12-02 10:19:49 2201
You may want "just the objective facts", however every observation is tainted by the observer. But i agree, attention is important, what you pay attention to is what happens to you, and what we pay attention to is what happens collectively in our shared world. So watch what you are watching; if it sucks, then chances are, you are contributing to making our culture suck.
This would pretty much devastate the scientific method or science itself! Kewl! I don't think so ... the scientific method has been dealing with the knowledge that "every observation is tainted by the observer" for many centuries now ... i suspect that the system is getting better and better at it.
Mark de LA says
seth 2012-03-26 05:38:56 2201
Mark 2005-12-04 10:19:30 2201
seth 2005-12-04 08:47:32 2201
I take it that the "us" in your sentence is some kind of group variable. I doubt that i would be an instantiantion of that variable, as i doubt that a staunch conservitive such as yourself would be agreeing very often with a staunch liberal such as myself as to what is and what is not good.
My alignment is what's true, beautiful & good. My politics in substantially conservative although my conservatism is stronger in the economic domain than the social domain. What is your alignment? Moral relativism ? Of course "us" always means those who are aligned with what I am aligned.
Of course "us" always means those who are aligned with what I am aligned.Interesting interchange we had 7 years ago in the light of the one today.
Today i would not term myself "a stanch liberal" anymore ... maybe an enlightened libertarian ... i don't know. I still find much of today's "staunch conservationism" a misguided enamouration of the all mighty sovereignty of the bloody $$$.
You piss on "moral relativism", probably because you don't truly understand it; and probably because you believe there is that pesky "the" in a true reference to "the good".
I do, however, like your sentence: "Of course "us" always means those who are aligned with what I am aligned" ... that is good and true to me as well. However i hasten to add that those who are not with us, are not necessarily against us, nor are they necessarily wrong, bad, evil, or otherwise gooks.
Today i would not term myself "a stanch liberal" anymore ... maybe an enlightened libertarian ... i don't know. I still find much of today's "staunch conservationism" a misguided enamouration of the all mighty sovereignty of the bloody $$$.
You piss on "moral relativism", probably because you don't truly understand it; and probably because you believe there is that pesky "the" in a true reference to "the good".
I do, however, like your sentence: "Of course "us" always means those who are aligned with what I am aligned" ... that is good and true to me as well. However i hasten to add that those who are not with us, are not necessarily against us, nor are they necessarily wrong, bad, evil, or otherwise gooks.Moral relativism is just an excuse for some to feel that they are wrong - part of the RWG , of course. If I can say "that's just wrong for you, but not for me" rather than absolutely wrong then I don't have to face any guilt or other feeling & in a funny way I can say "You're wrong" for holding me to some kind of absolute standard. Enjoy!
Mark de LA says
seth 2012-03-26 05:42:03 2201
MR 2012-03-25 07:48:56 2201
This would pretty much devastate the scientific method or science itself! Kewl!
seth 2005-12-02 10:19:49 2201
You may want "just the objective facts", however every observation is tainted by the observer. But i agree, attention is important, what you pay attention to is what happens to you, and what we pay attention to is what happens collectively in our shared world. So watch what you are watching; if it sucks, then chances are, you are contributing to making our culture suck.
This would pretty much devastate the scientific method or science itself! Kewl!I don't think so ... the scientific method has been dealing with the knowledge that "every observation is tainted by the observer" for many centuries now ... i suspect that the system is getting better and better at it.
... & then there is global warming & science by concensus & $$$$$, drugs & medicine that kill people presumably developed by science, & of course almost the entire field of psychology. Every day, almost, we get a new study about what science says is wrong with what we are eating or doing. Nope! Science is not my god either!
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