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εγω ειμαι says ...
#LOA says that when you don’t think about it, it will not be in your experience. The point of #LOA is that it has nothing to do with others except that others are part of the experience. You are the one writing the story. If you don’t think about this happening, and instead have other things about this subject in your thinking, it will be those things that are happening instead.
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  2. LOA
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Seth says
Well i have found that if i decide to remain in contact with another person, their actions towards me are  quite independent of my thoughts.   Were i to imagine that situation like you are imagining it, it would feel to me as if i were robbing them of their will independent of my perceptions. 

Seth says
seems that this got discussed over there →  www.fastblogit.com/thought/22112

Si says
I cannot reconcile the idea that what I think can rob another of anything. That just doesn’t make sense to me no matter what model/map I use. A place where that would happen would be such an unjust and horrible place I would not want to go or be there.

Fortunatly, for me, #LOA says the opposite. That each person is the creator of, and responsible for, their own experience. Thus, what we think is only determining our experience of that person, and could never actually rob anyone of anything … for also, that person is creating their own experience and is responsible for it … where we meet, the middle ground, is a place of agreement, or disagreement, of synergy, or drama … but never doth that middle space have permanence upon any other except as part of the drama being agreed upon, and played out together.

Seth says
well in “the middle space” your belief assume that i must “agree” to have any “permanence” to an experience of my nose being bashed in by your fist.   I find that is not the case. 

however there are some kinds of experiences, mostly positive ones, where i have noticed that is the case.

Si says
Well, as I related, not only is this said by the wise, but I have found it to be true in my experience. You must agree to the whole experience … if you do not, for whatever reason, chiefly your beliefs, then your experience, and memory of it, will be different than mine, and even different than 3rd party observers who may agree with you, or with me, depending on their own relative beliefs.

This is why the whole idea of #FairWitness is so difficult … there really is not some static reality out there that we each munge and are not fairwitness to … there is all of our different realities that we all sync up on various points. If you don’t try and think that through with your mind, which is biased by your beliefs, does it not often feel like people have their own separate experiences? And if so, then why would it be such a stretch to say that they are actually having a different reality experience? Other than the bias of beliefs you acquired as a child growing up and having this told to you about how things are supposed to be?

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