Peter Ralston - Truth & Morality - comment 70686

Mark de LA says ...
I don’t live in the confusion of that which is that you folks do. Enjoy the munge pool of your brains. Da #juice is very very good 4U.

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  1. juice
  2. DoneJust-like-Obama
  3. confusion
  4. lies
  5. PR
  6. LoaSwim
  7. RingTrue
  8. win
  9. MultiVerse
  10. RingsTrue
  11. ThreeLaws

Comments


Si says
It is not confusing at all mark. Quite the opposite in fact. This way it is very clear and easy to know who is lying when. It is your version that is confusing. Your version requires some authority to manage this absolute truth you believe in. It is always confusing who owns that today, and who the followers are this week. That is the real munge.

Mark de LA says
We disagree – typical de-frame on your part . Not much else to say. Adios. #DoneJust-like-Obama

Seth says
mark ,  how do you perceive confusion in others?

Mark de LA says
#confusion – In this case it the loss of simplicity & the pile of words needed to explain . Clarity is also lost in a maze surrounding what is obvious to most anyone else.null Most of what Peter says is really obvious doesn’t need a mentograph to grok what he is saying.

Seth says
yep i thought that what peter said was pretty straight forward and simple too. 

and so i responded with more context about #lies which was primarilay what he was talking about ...

i agree with #PR here,  #lies are immoral.   They make one’s inside contradict one’s outside.   That fucks up our human fabric.   It sacrifices the long term beauty of a #LoaSwim for a momentary advantage over others.  It is not my thing … i love null too much when my insides #RingTrue with my surroundings. 

Where it takes #lies to #win … me, i think i will join a different #MultiVerse.

did you think i was confused about the topic?  personally i did not notice any such confusion in what i said.  i am just  curious how you perceived confusion there.   Do you have some kind of criticism of my thinking there …something tangible that you can put into words?   … something specific that i can use to make my thinking about #lies more useful?

Mark de LA says
Look at how many words you had to add to the confusion.  You do know when you lie! null

Seth says
yes usually i do.   but it’s more a process of imporving my representations so that they #RingTrue.  eg: i just noticed that i misspelled “improving”. 

when my external representations match what is inside me that i am trying to represent, then i get the ringing.  if it is a deep inside, the more i read it back, the louder the ring.  

then it reaches even into other contexts which i did not originally realize and suggests other possibilities.   i usually hope that it will gain some resonance outside of me, but am not surprised if it does not.   …. more when i get back from po ...

Mark de LA says
#RingsTrue is the thinnest form of feeling-awareness test of whether something is true or false. Recommend something stronger like illative force.null

Seth says
well for me, the strongest ringing is experienced where i can match things up and share them with others.   that is what gets me away from mere subjective truth. 


“illitive force” comes from the ability to identify things … and then use logic to fill in the blanks  …

← see “Identity Entails Logic” in  #ThreeLaws. 

especially where others share the same knowledge of those identities.

so yes, basically i agree with you on the desire to go beyond mere subjective feelings that representations #RingTrue null
 

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