Copy of - TetModel Pallet
About: TetModel Pallet

#TetModel #tetrahedron
Tags
- widgets
- psychology
- EFFECT
- TetModel
- tetrahedron
- kudos
- thanks
- deed
- world
- tendrils
- thinking
- mental
- LuthersTable
Comments
Si says
See Arrows with transparent backgrounds
See Arrows with transparent backgrounds
Seth says
👍
👍
Si says
Try using inverse font for EFFECT
I wonder, can it hash?#EFFECT
perhaps not so well.
Try using inverse font for EFFECT
I wonder, can it hash?#EFFECT
perhaps not so well.
Seth says
👍
👍
Seth says
well it’s best can do for now
well it’s best can do for now
Si says
Yes. Someday maybe font colors and backgrounds for widgets … but the hash thing is always going to be tricky as it is painted over the rest.
Yes. Someday maybe font colors and backgrounds for widgets … but the hash thing is always going to be tricky as it is painted over the rest.
Si says
Curious why you don’t use the numbers but instead do everything empirically. Clearly the triangle you are working with has 60 degree sides. So if you simply adjust all your arrows to 60 and –60 degrees, they will fit perfectly. But your empirical sighting by eye is giving some of them 61 degrees and others 59 degrees and that is not quite a perfect fit.
Curious why you don’t use the numbers but instead do everything empirically. Clearly the triangle you are working with has 60 degree sides. So if you simply adjust all your arrows to 60 and –60 degrees, they will fit perfectly. But your empirical sighting by eye is giving some of them 61 degrees and others 59 degrees and that is not quite a perfect fit.
Seth says
👍
👍
Seth says
good idea … but hard to type in -60 on one some of the arrows.

Si says
Okay. I guess I need to fix that. But you still can use the slider to get exactly -60 even if it is a bit sensitive.
Okay. I guess I need to fix that. But you still can use the slider to get exactly -60 even if it is a bit sensitive.

Seth says
👍
👍
Seth says
Notice that if a thought has widgets on top of it, then it can not longer be edited with a pen … that yields some kind of lockout and one must kill the browser instance. that means that once a thought has widgets, then it can no longer be re published .. or the titel changed.
Notice that if a thought has widgets on top of it, then it can not longer be edited with a pen … that yields some kind of lockout and one must kill the browser instance. that means that once a thought has widgets, then it can no longer be re published .. or the titel changed.
Si says
Okay. I am using the standard HTML5 number input field with implicit validation.
In FF I found that you can put in 60 and then curse to the left before 6 and add the minus sign.
In Chrome you can do the same, but you also have to hold the left arrow key down, which keeps the cursor to the left, while you add the minus sign.
Kind of stupid, but this is how the browser default <input type=”number”> elements work unfortunatly.
You will notice spinner up and down arrows in the right of the input box. You can also use those, or the slider.
Okay. I am using the standard HTML5 number input field with implicit validation.
In FF I found that you can put in 60 and then curse to the left before 6 and add the minus sign.
In Chrome you can do the same, but you also have to hold the left arrow key down, which keeps the cursor to the left, while you add the minus sign.
Kind of stupid, but this is how the browser default <input type=”number”> elements work unfortunatly.
You will notice spinner up and down arrows in the right of the input box. You can also use those, or the slider.
Seth says
i started out using the spinners … it was a very upsetting experience
… then i tried entering number … which was not much better … then i discovered the slider … loved that
… but exact math is exact math and is to be revered
i started out using the spinners … it was a very upsetting experience



Si says
I can’t repo that. I can edit with the pen both in Chrome and FF on my The Magic of - YES Island thought.
I can’t repo that. I can edit with the pen both in Chrome and FF on my The Magic of - YES Island thought.
Seth says
wierd … i believe i tried it in chrome and in ff on two computers and it always happens.
wierd … i believe i tried it in chrome and in ff on two computers and it always happens.
Si says
Okay. Well the slider for getting close and then the spinners for tweaking works fairly well in all browsers. I would have to write my own input box controls to do better, and that is hardly worth it. I am sure the browsers will get better in this area in future versions and then all will work fine. This part of HTML5 is still releativly new.
Okay. Well the slider for getting close and then the spinners for tweaking works fairly well in all browsers. I would have to write my own input box controls to do better, and that is hardly worth it. I am sure the browsers will get better in this area in future versions and then all will work fine. This part of HTML5 is still releativly new.
Seth says

Si says
Don’t know. I have been editing thoughts with widgets, to change titles etc, the whole time and have never seen a problem. Just tried in FF right now, and it worked fine on The Magic of - YES Island
Don’t know. I have been editing thoughts with widgets, to change titles etc, the whole time and have never seen a problem. Just tried in FF right now, and it worked fine on The Magic of - YES Island
Seth says
you have wierd fingers
you have wierd fingers
Seth says

← this is what happens in Chrome
the system stalls for several seconds, then the error pops up. there is no way to get out of it without killing the browser instance.
But if the thought does not have widgets, then the pens edit just fine.

← this is what happens in Chrome
the system stalls for several seconds, then the error pops up. there is no way to get out of it without killing the browser instance.
But if the thought does not have widgets, then the pens edit just fine.
Si says
Okay. Noted. But I simply can’t get that result (repo it). I will think on it and see if anyting pops that I can change and have you try again.
Okay. Noted. But I simply can’t get that result (repo it). I will think on it and see if anyting pops that I can change and have you try again.
Seth says
👍
👍
Seth says
👍
👍
Seth says
#kudos → nathan on the arrows … for me that was exactly what i needed … #thanks
#kudos → nathan on the arrows … for me that was exactly what i needed … #thanks
Si says
👍
👍
Si says
I would probably label the line between thought and will as #deed. It is clearly in that general area and that also shows how #deed is only a small part of the whole picture too. (which I elaborated on elsewhere)
I would probably label the line between thought and will as #deed. It is clearly in that general area and that also shows how #deed is only a small part of the whole picture too. (which I elaborated on elsewhere)

Seth says

Well deeds are something actually happening … it is effect in the #world … it is not mental.
I would draw #deed as in this Bipyramid Tetrahedron
diagram.
Elsewhere you eloquently discussed experiencing #tendrils … i would draw those from thinking to the mental image of the #world.
#TetModel

Well deeds are something actually happening … it is effect in the #world … it is not mental.
I would draw #deed as in this Bipyramid Tetrahedron
diagram.
Elsewhere you eloquently discussed experiencing #tendrils … i would draw those from thinking to the mental image of the #world.
#TetModel
Si says
Well, a #deed is a spasum of thought and action locked in step. That is clearly what a #deed is. I don’t know how to represent that in your contemplation.
Well, a #deed is a spasum of thought and action locked in step. That is clearly what a #deed is. I don’t know how to represent that in your contemplation.
Seth says
#deed does not require #thinking at all. but it sure can be locked in thought all together as in a spasum … but that is kind of an ideal that you have perhaps perfected … it does not always happen.
#deed does not require #thinking at all. but it sure can be locked in thought all together as in a spasum … but that is kind of an ideal that you have perhaps perfected … it does not always happen.
Seth says

I would draw the “spasum” like this.
The #deed and the though-to-action happens all in one fell swoop as you say.
In the model we are not restrained to just one arrow at a time. In fact most of the interesting psychology requires 3 or 4 or 5 or more arrows to describe.
Motivation to deed might happen without thought passionately …. then the arrow would be drawn from feeling to will.
What happens in the world can be distinguished from what is experienced in a #mental bubble. That distinction must be reflected in the #TetModel. And yes i know, that may well contradict your beliefs.

I would draw the “spasum” like this.
The #deed and the though-to-action happens all in one fell swoop as you say.
In the model we are not restrained to just one arrow at a time. In fact most of the interesting psychology requires 3 or 4 or 5 or more arrows to describe.
Motivation to deed might happen without thought passionately …. then the arrow would be drawn from feeling to will.
What happens in the world can be distinguished from what is experienced in a #mental bubble. That distinction must be reflected in the #TetModel. And yes i know, that may well contradict your beliefs.
Seth says
it happened differently at #LuthersTable on their WiFi and even here locally on my laptop through my WiFi than how it happens on my desktop which is hard wired to the router. On WiFi it seems i can click the pen to edit, but then it hesitates when i click publish … somtimes yielding the error, but once it actually completed after multiple seconds.
it happened differently at #LuthersTable on their WiFi and even here locally on my laptop through my WiFi than how it happens on my desktop which is hard wired to the router. On WiFi it seems i can click the pen to edit, but then it hesitates when i click publish … somtimes yielding the error, but once it actually completed after multiple seconds.
Si says
Conversation forked to thought 23100
Conversation forked to thought 23100
Si says
seth … do you know if this happens only after moving or sizing or editing widgets … or if it also happens on a clean refresh of the browser without doing anything with widgets before using the pen?
seth … do you know if this happens only after moving or sizing or editing widgets … or if it also happens on a clean refresh of the browser without doing anything with widgets before using the pen?
Seth says
it happened only on thoughts that had widgets. But it has not happened for several days now. When it happened i am not sure whether i had adjusted the widgets in that same instance or not … but i do seem to remember killing the browser and going in on a copletely new instance and having the same problem. that is frequently my stratagey … if someting does not work, kill the browser instance and try it fresh … so yes, i almost certainly tried that.
it happened only on thoughts that had widgets. But it has not happened for several days now. When it happened i am not sure whether i had adjusted the widgets in that same instance or not … but i do seem to remember killing the browser and going in on a copletely new instance and having the same problem. that is frequently my stratagey … if someting does not work, kill the browser instance and try it fresh … so yes, i almost certainly tried that.
Si says
👍
👍
See Also
- Thought Cycle of doing with 783 viewings related by tag "thinking".
- Thought Psychology 101 - A Model with 764 viewings related by tag "psychology".
- Thought Moving from 2 to 3 dimensions with 559 viewings related by tag "psychology".
- Thought Reflected Tetrahedron with 532 viewings related by tag "tetmodel".
- Thought The psychology of Inside Outside Story with 423 viewings related by tag "psychology".
- Thought Thought, Feeling, and Will with 401 viewings related by tag "TetModel".
- Thought moving widgets inside widgets with 400 viewings related by tag "widgets".
- Thought There is no such thing as freedom with 389 viewings related by tag "deed".
- Thought (clone) Should presidents tweet? with 337 viewings related by tag "thinking".
- Thought Socrates Cafe Question: Should presidents tweet? with 316 viewings related by tag "thinking".
- Thought Well here i am back in this reality with 312 viewings related by tag "kudos".
- Thought [title (23251)] with 262 viewings related by tag "thanks".
- Thought train of thought (wallaby) in progress ... with 261 viewings related by tag "psychology".
- Thought New TetModel of Psychology with 246 viewings related by tag "psychology".
- Thought About Seth with 219 viewings related by tag "psychology".
- Thought New Instance of TetModel with 210 viewings related by tag "TetModel".
- Thought Socretes Cafe Tuesday May 2 2017 with 207 viewings related by tag "LuthersTable".
- Thought Triangulating ... with 186 viewings related by tag "TetModel".
- Thought The Behavior Sequences with 173 viewings related by tag "TetModel".
- Thought Playing with Widgets (edited) with 164 viewings related by tag "widgets".
- Thought The ego bubble plane with 154 viewings related by tag "psychology".
- Thought Thinking in the Public River with 152 viewings related by tag "thinking".
- Thought Tet Model Pallet with 150 viewings related by tag "TetModel".
- Thought Socrates Cafe March 1 2017 with 146 viewings related by tag "LuthersTable".
- Thought Socretes Cafe Tuesday April 18 2017 with 142 viewings related by tag "LuthersTable".
- Thought Socretes Cafe Tuesday May 30 2017 with 141 viewings related by tag "LuthersTable".
- Thought How does blockchain go beyond what we already have in GCP ? with 139 viewings related by tag "thanks".
- Thought TetModel of Feedback with 139 viewings related by tag "psychology".
- Thought To upload mp3 files to Fillmore box 6300 with 129 viewings related by tag "kudos".
- Thought Socretes Cafe Wednesday June 21 2017 with 128 viewings related by tag "LuthersTable".
- Thought Why my trains of thought break ... with 125 viewings related by tag "thinking".
- Thought Fallacies and Pallacies with 124 viewings related by tag "thinking".
- Thought Socretes Cafe Tuesday April 25 2017 with 109 viewings related by tag "LuthersTable".
- Thought Go Mark! with 102 viewings related by tag "kudos".
- Thought Tendrils of thoughts with 98 viewings related by tag "tendrils".
- Thought about: rational and intuitive thinking – marc clifton with 97 viewings related by tag "thinking".
- Thought SeriTD dreams, and dreams of boz. with 97 viewings related by tag "thinking".
- Thought Several people interacting Psychologically with 96 viewings related by tag "psychology".
- Thought 3 state logic with 90 viewings related by tag "thanks".
- Thought 2016C - FALL CD catalog production with 86 viewings related by tag "kudos".
- Thought #iSwim with 86 viewings related by tag "thinking".
- Thought Making up Others with 85 viewings related by tag "kudos".
- Thought REPORTER with 77 viewings related by tag "thanks".
- Thought [title (23120)] with 76 viewings related by tag "psychology".
- Thought Thoughts at Luther's Table ... with 63 viewings related by tag "LuthersTable".
- Thought Socretes Cafe Tuesday March 28 2017 with 56 viewings related by tag "LuthersTable".
- Thought Deeds collapse Possibilities into Manifestations with 55 viewings related by tag "deed".
- Thought Thursday at Luther's Table with 54 viewings related by tag "LuthersTable".
- Thought Socretes Cafe Tuesday May 9 2017 with 53 viewings related by tag "LuthersTable".
- Thought Amazon's Buy Box Games with 52 viewings related by tag "kudos".