Free Will

About: silent thought

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seth: 2005-12-26 11:57:12 Magor 2005-12-26 11:34:36 2326 seth 2005-12-26 11:28:08 2326 I made a comment regarding "free will" here url http://thenonist.com/index.php/weblog/comments/free_will_by_degrees/. I defined "free will" as the ability to form intentions. This definition may need some work. Interesting, but I think begs the question. Is your ability to form intentions "free" or not? Is it constrained by mere DNA, environment or past history OR can you form an intention totally independent ? Well, like the nonist, i think that saying that something behaves totally independant of it's environment, its DNA, and it's history is an absurd proposition.  I think looking for "free will" there is like looking for dry water ... it is a catagory error of the gravest sort.  Rather think, as the nonist mentions in terms of degrees of freedom.  Forming intentions allows more degrees of freedom than not being able to form them.  A rock cannot form intentions.  A thermostat cannot form intentions, it has only the intentions that it was designed with by its manufacturer.
Continued here as it left the subject of silent thought and changed to free will.
I have a more experiential view of free will. Can I form an intention & carry it out?
If I can then I am free.  RS says that the soul is free to experience what it may, but the body & spirit are constrained by the laws of their respective domains.


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  1. free will
  2. philosophy
  3. behavior

Comments


Seth says
... the question is not whether the soul exists, i am sure that your are refering to something ... the question is whether everyone who uses that term is refering to the same thing.

Mark de LA says
seth 2005-12-26 13:40:05 2348
... the question is not whether the soul exists, i am sure that your are refering to something ... the question is whether everyone who uses that term is refering to the same thing.

I'm sure the same goes for sex, drugs & rock'n roll

Mark de LA says
The soul exists, even for materialists (except those who sold theirs!)


Seth says
source: mark's opinion above
Can I form an intention & carry it out? If I can then I a free. 
Actually I have no trouble with that; except to say it is not a binary situation.  If you can form a intention and carry it out, then you have that degree of freedom. 
source: mark's opinion above
RS says that the soul is free to experience what it may, but the body & spirit are constrained by the laws of their respective domains.
Well i would say that your imaginings are, daa ,  not restrained by physics.  See, we don't need any faith in some mythical world to experess that same thought.



Seth says
i dub thee a “stand in” for thought 2347  so by bozomic decomposition



See Facebook out of both sides of your neck gets to be an example of “free will trancending” (3^2) smug

this game keeps happening
 

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