On the matter of "as itself for itself"

About: Picturing Hegel: An Illustrated Guide to Hegel's Encyclopaedia Logic - Julie E. Maybee - Google Books

To grok something “as itself for itself” – just for me – needs that the contemplated be living or at least conscious. So I ran into the Heidegger/Hegel/Marceus notion of in-itselfness  & tried to see if such specified whether or not consciousness was a requirement.  Being does not require consciousness. I am not conscious when I sleep & I am still being. The other requirement, in my mind is that it must be alive to have a self to be “for” . Such is up-for-grabs still for me.  
Don’t get me confused – I can remove from contemplation all the things I assign as a properties of the chair to the existence/being of a chair including that it is an “it” & that also is something I assign in the context of an object world.  Perhaps it’s only thing say about it is that it exists, eh?   It is the “for itself” part that makes me think consciousness is needed. Perhaps the word itself doesn’t mean it has a self. I have little confusion when I contemplate plants & animals only other humans.  BTW, I have 2 copies of BofNK ; one hard cover & one Kindle for searching & portable use (& the rest of your books, PR) . Thanks for your latest Consciousness Dialogues – quite helpful to know how others are relating to the material.

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