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Mark de LA says
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The study points to a total lack of reason in political decision-making.
Notice in this one sentence how much is lost of the content of the study.  Does "political decision-making" refer to the just students listening to political discussion ? Is the writer of the conclusion implying that this is what is going on "in general" in politics in say Washington D.C.? Does a brain scan really show conclusively that "a total lack of reason" is happening or is the subject just bored with hearing the same arguments over & over again? While the article is most likely provocative - it may not be science. - Can a person reason without triggering a the "reasoning centers" of the brain. The conclusion is too general for it to be an actual fact.


Seth says
source: Live Science

Democrats and Republicans alike are adept at making decisions without letting the facts get in the way, a new study shows.

And they get quite a rush from ignoring information that's contrary to their point of view.

Researchers asked staunch party members from both sides to evaluate information that threatened their preferred candidate prior to the 2004 Presidential election. The subjects' brains were monitored while they pondered.

The results were announced today.

"We did not see any increased activation of the parts of the brain normally engaged during reasoning," said Drew Westen, director of clinical psychology at Emory University. "What we saw instead was a network of emotion circuits lighting up, including circuits hypothesized to be involved in regulating emotion, and circuits known to be involved in resolving conflicts."

Bias on both sides

The test subjects on both sides of the political aisle reached totally biased conclusions by ignoring information that could not rationally be discounted, Westen and his colleagues say.

Then, with their minds made up, brain activity ceased in the areas that deal with negative emotions such as disgust. But activity spiked in the circuits involved in reward, a response similar to what addicts experience when they get a fix, Westen explained.

The study points to a total lack of reason in political decision-making.



Mark de LA says
I think the study pointed more at the distinctions I wrote about in right-wrong - Zen & the Art of the Right-Wrong game.

Mark de LA says
and here the Washington Post today has another view of the study to suggest that the study means that conservatives are racist might have to register to read it.


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