A simple implementation of Sticky Items using tags

Some items are made with the intention of the item finding it's match.


To facilitate this we tag items with intentions. We could use the keyword "to" in a tag to give items intentions. For example: the author might intend that an item tagged "to sell" would stick to an item tagged "to buy". In other words the intention "to sell" is complementary to the intention "to buy".

With this scheme there needs to be someplace where the tag "to sell" is recorded as complementary to the tag "to buy".

The matching can take place in any room and the items that are stuck together will be displayed together with a stickey bar (which no doubt Winnie can make us).

Now we need some other tags to control the matchs. "required" could be used to imply that this tag is required for the match; for example: "required fireplace" might tag an item tagged "to buy" of "required type house".

Another keyword might be "desired". So that the above wanted to buy house might be tagged "desired view". That way the matching algorithm would paste those items up higher on the list of items to which it is sticking.

What do you all think ...

Tags

  1. sticky cyber molecules
  2. scm
  3. p2p networks

Comments


Mark de LA says
How will it work - give an item a tag - rules of some sort - and push a match button & get a list of items ? kewl, but kinda complicated for a first release.

Mark de LA says
people will ultimately want to interact with the rule sets perhaps making writing their own

Mark de LA says
trick is (I reiterate myself again - sorry about the de ja vu) simplicity - first case no boolean logic eg. buy matches sell on tag - buy house matches sell house buy pussy matches sell pussy

Seth says
How will it work - give an item a tag - rules of some sort - and push a match button & get a list of items ? kewl, but kinda complicated for a first release.
I don't understand this. There is no need for any "push a match button to get a list of items". The items stuck to their matches will automatically show up in whatever room that they would have ordinarialy have appeared within. From the client's perspective all they need do is to tag items appropriately. No new buttons or even screens are required .. (err with the exception of designating complementary tags). That is the beauty of this solution.

Seth says
As to "boolian logic" that is contained in the key words used for the tags .. required and desired

Seth says
The only complexity accrues to the programmer of the background task which cycels through the taggings table and records the matches ... just how the matches are recorded in the db has not been specified, but there needs to be a way to easily have the items sort together which have been stuck together. But this is just SQL work ... should be an easy piece for a SQL jockey.

Seth says
people will ultimately want to interact with the rule sets perhaps making writing their own
... perhaps, the algorithm is a fuzzy ai type algorithm ... maybe even a kind of expert system kind of logic ... having many people chirping into it would be a good thing

Mark de LA says
can you mock up a few items - as i see it a tag will get all of one class of object like "houses for sale" - how will that stick to anything. Indeed all you need is a tag of "houses for sale" and any buyer with common sense will select for that tag.

Mark de LA says
buy-sell matches are already in the ebay domain - it's a 1-way street. rarely do buyers list themselves on ebay as wanting some particular kind of junk

Seth says
as i see it a tag will get all of one class of object like "houses for sale" - how will that stick to anything. Indeed all you need is a tag of "houses for sale" and any buyer with common sense will select for that tag.
there are several types of tags that go into the matching process: (1) tags showing intention "to sell"<=> "to buy" "to ask"<=>"to answer" , (2) required calssification tags "required type house" .. "required location San Francisco" .... and then (3) desireable qualities "desired view", "desired fireplace" ... these latter help the pertinance of the match and make the most desireable sort closer to the item.

Seth says
buy-sell matches are already in the ebay domain - it's a 1-way street. rarely do buyers list themselves on ebay as wanting some particular kind of junk
Ebay costs the seller money. This is free

Seth says
add to the type of tags (4) exclusions "excluding smokers" ... "excluding price greater $200,000"

anonymous says
what will you get out of the match ? a list of items of all matches ? i don't see what you are going to get that isn't just common sense

Seth says
Yes the item sorts together .. you see the item and all of those items that meet the minimum requirements of the match ... the item with the best match will be stuck directly to the requesting item, followed by the next best match etc. Yes this is common sense. I guess i dont get the drift of your comment.

anonymous says
Simply, if i want to buy a house then i look at a list of houses for sale. I am not interested in seeing other people's items who want to buy a house. Secondly, how would this merge with the current living stream behavior ?

Seth says
I am not interested in seeing other people's items who want to buy a house.
Yes, nor am i. You would not see other people's items like your own. You would make an item in your group describing your request and come back to that item and see the items which satisfy it, sticking to it in order of best match.

Mark de LA says
kewl - will that merge in with the current behavior ?

Seth says
Yes, seamlessly !

Seth says
we prolly need a new group to discuss sticky cyber mocules and the ultimate match.

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