9 years left & counting ....

About: Algore: We Have Ten Years Left Before Earth Cooks

- So what is YOUR solution to the so-called 10 year crisis ??? Kyoto won't do it! Kyoto is a boondoggle to make those countries who have already developed pay-off those who haven't & create a massive trading scheme. Remember the UN oil for food program ?  Why didn't Bill Clinton & Algore submit the Kyoto protocol treaty(?) to the US Congress for ratification when they were in office & had a chance ??













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Mark de LA says
From the article under the boondoggle link comes this piece of information:
source: ...Martin Parry, et. al., argue that even if the Kyoto Protocol is fully implemented it will only reduce the amount of warming by only 0.05 degrees C by 2050. And even if the participating countries reduced emissions by a massive 20 percent, warming would be reduced by only 0.1 degrees C by 2050. "These minor reductions in the expected warming mean that the projected impacts of change are barely affected," say the authors.
We're doomed I guess!

Mark de LA says
Lets party, man! 


Seth says
source:
Kyoto is a boondogle to make those countries who have already developed pay-off those who haven't & create a massive trading scheme
US, Western Europe and China are creating most of the worlds emissions consequently, any way you slice it, most of the mitigation costs must needs accru to those nations. 

Kyoto is just a mechinism for establishing incentives and a free market so that the mitigation can start happening. 

I've seen this experssed better in other graphs but this one from the US EPA should suffice to get the point across.

Have you stidied the trading scheme?  Can you come up with a better one?  Assume for a moment that that the world intends to mitigate the warming and that reducing CO2 emissions will do the job.  What would you propose for a internation mechinism ?  Taxing CO2 emissions ?


Mark de LA says
Read the link under the word boondoggle again.  It won't do any good!


Seth says
M 2006-06-29 07:18:31 3823
Lets party, man! 

Readers should know that M's reaction to difficulty and complexity is to go in a loop ...

at "rubber ducker sucker fucker"  say repeat

Mark de LA says
Note below Seth's leftist reaction is to stage an ad hominem slur. You really have to get over it someday & address the issues if you can .  My comment below was an attempt at humor - too bad your funny bone is broken 
seth 2006-06-29 08:12:12 3823
M 2006-06-29 07:18:31 3823
Lets party, man! 

Readers should know that M's reaction to difficulty and complexity is to go in a loop ...

at "rubber ducker sucker fucker"  say repeat


Mark de LA says
seth 2006-06-29 08:27:40 3823
M 2006-06-29 08:11:37 3823
Read the link under the word boondoggle again.  It won't do any good!

This Emissions Trading No Solution; Rent Seekers Eye Profits From Kyoto article is a long way from proving it's proposition.  In fact all it really says is that there will be an oppurtunity for companies to provide  "new technologies required to help people lower their CO2 output".  Well, daaa, that's what we want.   It seems to me that the spin of the article is that is a bad thing.
Did you not find the quoted assertion that the protocol would reduce the CO2 emissions a miniscule amount rather interesting given all the hype about the Kyoto protocol ? The boondoggle is the trading & what manner of shell game the trading will produce. You obviously believe that everyone & every country should be equal economically - or do you ?

Seth says
M 2006-06-29 09:00:27 3823
Did you not find the quoted assertion that the protocol would reduce the CO2 emissions a miniscule amount rather interesting given all the hype about the Kyoto protocol ?
The Earth is a giant thing and has a incrediable amount of inertia.  I think we need to study the scale of the problem in volume, distribution, and time.  I have no informed reaction from this obviously biased article.  You've mentioned this a number of times now.  Why not form an unbiased proposition and actually study the situation?   But don't expect me to bandy surfacy misinformation regarding it with you.
source: M 2006-06-29 09:00:27 3823
The boondoggle is the trading & what manner of shell game the trading will produce. You obviously believe that everyone & every country should be equal economically - or do you ?
The proposition that "everyone & every country should be equal economically" sounds like something that Ann Coulter would accuse liberals of believing.  So, assuming that i am a liberal, i "obviously" must believe that too.  Thinking like that is why i keep ranting against leftrightism.  For the record: people and countries are not equal economically.  That is a fact of reality.   Ann knows that, you know that, everybody knows that, even card carrying liberals know that.  Yet you must sling this at me as if it impeached my my thinking ... as if your right wing standing gave you an edge.  Try thinking outside the striped areas.  
BTW, everyone know that reality has a known liberal bias anyway.


Mark de LA says
Since your insist upon using a word that does not exist except in your mind, please let your mind give us a clue as to the meaning of the word "surfacy" .

Mark de LA says
source: ... US, Western Europe and China are creating most of the worlds emissions consequently, any way you slice it, most of the mitigation costs must needs accru to those nations.
... judge, jury , & executioner.... US is GUILTY! - let's bring down the economy of the US & bring up the economy of the backward nations. Sounds like a liberal wet-dream to me

Now if you want to think with logic & maybe science consider that it took 100 years to warm the earth 0.5 degrees above the norm - & Algore says we have only 10 years to do something about it - that would seem that we are already fucked - not enough time to fix it unless we all hold our breath & stop the cows from farting.


Seth says
M 2006-06-29 09:16:37 3823
Note below Seth's leftist reaction is to stage an ad hominem slur. You really have to get over it someday & address the issues if you can .  My comment below was an attempt at humor - too bad your funny bone is broken 
seth 2006-06-29 08:12:12 3823
M 2006-06-29 07:18:31 3823
Lets party, man! 

Readers should know that M's reaction to difficulty and complexity is to go in a loop ...

at "rubber ducker sucker fucker"  say repeat

Hmmm ... now why did you not find my reation to you as funny as i found it ?   Don't forget, which side of your eyeballs you are on when you laugh.  Btw, no... i did not find your "Lets party man" as a reaction to an oppurtunity to make a profit by reducing CO2 emissions funny ... i found it lame ... going in a rubber ducker sucker fucker loop ... now that is funny to watch.  Now if is say "Humor is relative" does that make me even more a liberal ?  What would Ann Coulter say about that  (WWACSAT) ?

Mark de LA says
Lets bring it down to close & personal.  Lets get a concensus that says that Seth farts & that farts stink up the air around Seth that others have to breathe. Concensus rules. Now be it resolved further that Seth can get off the hook by buying fart-credits from other people who do not fart as much in the house (say your spouse & visitors & others ). This will create a fart-based economy. We could expand the jurisdiction to your neighborhood if your house is too small a region to measure the difference. Sooner or later this accord may cause Seth to fart less (I doubt it!) or maybe he will run out of money or be fined for having exceeded his fart-quotient.

If we were further to model the Kyoto accord there would be no fines & no enforcement & not everyone in the house would have to be part of the agreement - let's say Jason could fart all he wanted to - being still a minor. 

Notice that none of this really would decrease the farting.  None of this would make Seth's fart smell better. None of this solves much of anything except that it makes the concensus makers feel better & makes them think that they actually did something.


Let's actually do something like focusing on alternative energy, alternative transportation & individual homage to Gaia !


Mark de LA says
seth 2006-06-29 09:59:10 3823
M 2006-06-29 09:45:56 3823
Since your insist upon using a word that does not exist except in your mind, please let your mind give us a clue as to the meaning of the word "surfacy" .
Hint .. is derived from the word "surface" ... a surface has no deapth.
Now we are going to have to work on the word "deapth"

Mark de LA says
Personally, If we really are all DOOMED (as Algore seems to suggest),  I want to have a gigantic party! You may on the other hand choose to pass laws against CO2 & convert your automobile to a tricycle in the time you have left.  I believe in choice - go for it.


Mark de LA says
seth 2006-06-29 10:42:22 3823
M 2006-06-29 10:29:00 3823
Lets bring it down to close & personal.  Lets get a concensus that says that Seth farts & that farts stink up the air around Seth that others have to breathe. Concensus rules. .....
For those who don't know M like i know him,  this is what we call a rubber ducker sucker fucker loop.  Is it funny?  You decide.
Too bad you missed the point through your dirty lense of "rubber, ducker, sucker, fucker" - enjoy the dirty lens.

Seth says
M 2006-06-29 10:29:00 3823
Lets bring it down to close & personal.  Lets get a concensus that says that Seth farts & that farts stink up the air around Seth that others have to breathe. Concensus rules. .....
For those who don't know M like i know him,  this is what we call a rubber ducker sucker fucker loop.  Is it funny?  You decide.



Si says
This was 12 years ago. Is there anybody out there? Hello?

… maybe it’s all over and I missed it!

Mark de LA says

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