Michael Crichton - State of Fear

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Together with his DVD on Talk about Inconvenient Truth should be interesting reading & listening.



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  3. global warming
  4. peter doran

Comments


Mark de LA says
Hmmm.... a liberty lover is someone who loves liberty .. a not too unsurprising term to be found on a libertarian website. 


Seth says
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After the movie The Day After Tomorrow came out with all its haphazardly slathered scare-mongering, many a liberty lover thought: "Gee, if only some Michael Crichton type would come up with a story that blasts radical-environmentalist mythologies about global warming and whatnot to bits, and also features loony environmentalist activists as the villains!"
They should do better proof reading of their promotional tex.   I mean what's a "liberty lover" ... a new political catagory, a fudge term, or a typo.  Anyway they got it wrong, liberals can't hardly wait for an Asimov or a Heinlein or a Michener to write a epic novel on global warming.  Doesn't really matter whether it ends up being a tradegy or whether in the end the Human race triumphs over stupidity.  Either way it would be a great novel. 

Seth says
Crichton's name came up in the news today ...
source: Scientists: Global warming imminent
But as Hansen noted, it

Mark de LA says
Environmentalism is the new religion.  
source: ... Perhaps there is an implicit recognition on the part of today's enviro-skeptics that the present fight isn't merely about the environment. That's what the novelist Michael Crichton argued in a 2003 speech to the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco: "Today, one of the most powerful religions in the Western world is environmentalism. Environmentalism seems to be the religion of choice of urban atheists. Why do I say that? Well, just look at the beliefs. If you look carefully, you see that environmentalism is in fact a perfect 21st-century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths."
... now you know why it shows up as partisan & not a logical, scientific debate. Read the whole article in spite of the biblical references - then go worship a tree! It is not really a theistic argument.

Seth says
M 2006-07-24 09:39:07 3888
source: ...
source: Environmentalism is the new religion
... consider the implications of spiritualizing the environment, of equating God with nature ...
... remember ... every rock has spirit ... etc.
... not even close to RS.  Worshipping the environment as your god is not the same thing as spiritual science
And saying "Worshipping the environment as your god" is nothing but spamming our language. And btw the the ideas about spirits in everything of nature came from American Indian and independantly from European pagen traditions.  RS did speak of it and not, btw to debunk it.  If that is not the case, please site chapter and verse.

Mark de LA says
source: ...
source: Environmentalism is the new religion
... consider the implications of spiritualizing the environment, of equating God with nature ...
... remember ... every rock has spirit ... etc.
... not even close to RS.  Worshipping the environment as your god is not the same thing as spiritual science


Seth says
M 2006-07-24 07:38:35 3888

source: Environmentalism is the new religion
 Perhaps there is an implicit recognition on the part of today's enviro-skeptics that the present fight isn't merely about the environment. That's what the novelist Michael Crichton argued in a 2003 speech to the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco: "Today, one of the most powerful religions in the Western world is environmentalism. Environmentalism seems to be the religion of choice of urban atheists. Why do I say that? Well, just look at the beliefs. If you look carefully, you see that environmentalism is in fact a perfect 21st-century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths."
... now you know why it shows up as partisan & not a logical, scientific debate. Read the whole article in spite of the biblical references - then go worship a tree! It is not really a theistic argument.

Calling environmentalism a "religion" is just rhetorical trickery.  We have the same kind of shit from Ann Coulter and i have a sneaking suspicion that is where David Klinghoffer got it.  Oh sure any strong set of beliefs will function similarly and that is all that is happening here.  This is propoganda.  It tag spam.  It is the way you change language to further your political adgenda.  Study what is going on in the language of Islam. There we see the fruits of this tag attack on language. 

Btw, is any of the following reminicient of some of Rudolph Stiener's teachings ...
source: Environmentalism is the new religion
... consider the implications of spiritualizing the environment, of equating God with nature ...
... remember ... every rock has spirit ... etc.

Mark de LA says
This is not going anywhere...to quote you (Seth) - just spam. Can't prove a negative. 


Seth says
M 2006-07-24 11:57:30 3888
This is not going anywhere...to quote you (Seth) - just spam. Can't prove a negative. 
Not looking for a negative.  We would be looking for where RS discussed those American Indian and Pagan views on nature.  I remember reading them i just do not remember what he said.  I wish i had it in front of me now ... it would be an interesting read ... and it might just give you a different view on "Worshipping the environment". 

Mark de LA says
The modern religion of Environmentalism has nothing to do with the spirit & hence RS is off topic.  It is basically materialism with science thrown in for leverage against the unbelievers. If the Environmentalistas were to acknowledge a true spirit in the planet of the Earth then they would know that there is more to the changes in the climate than humans by themselves can destroy. 


Seth says
Actually all ancient cultures have elements of nature worship.  It is only the modern cultures where on lives all day in a artifical environment where the term "Worshipping the environment as your god" starts to have a dissonant ring.   Do you get how this linguistic switch is nothing short of saying "black" is "white" .. "good" id "evil".  Insunating that "Worshiping Nature" is a bad thing sucks plain and simple.  Now go hug a tree !

Mark de LA says
I wonder just who got to him ? The NYTimes is a know purveyor of lies, distortions & fabrications.  Still, it's my scientists against your scientists in a political season during the summer with the media hyping global warming during a heat wave.  Just what kind of truth do you expect in that kind of climate (sic) ? 


Seth says
Too bad, Michael Crichton's book is based upon distortions  ...
source: Peter Doran in the New York Times

Our results have been misused as


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