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uri http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief005-24.htm
uri http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents
uri http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_against_Israel_in_2000
The UN Partition Plan - notice the lousy job of gerrymandering - once before the UN fucked it up.
uri http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
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Mark de LA says
Think of the partitioning of Israel as a game of Go.

Seth says
One thing i've noticed is that we can find lists of incidents of terrorism against Israel. Point being that they are listabel, we can put numbers on them, they are numerable. But i have never see a list of violent acts of persecution against innocent Palestenians. Now i'm not saying that these enumerated lists do not exist ... just that i have not been able to find that. For me that brings up a question: why don't these lists exist (if in fact they do not exist) ? Thing is I know that there are violent acts against Palestenians because occasionaly them get reported in the news. Are these violent acts so numerous that they cannot be listed practically? Or are they so fue that it would be silly to list them?

Mark de LA says
Maybe here's your answer: CNN Int'l snubs Israeli civilians.

Mark de LA says
Thought I would try another way to use an item number/

s item 4154

Seth says

M 2006-08-15 12:19:05 4156

Thought I would try another way to use an item number/

s item 4154

yeah i noticed that ... it was a good idea

... notwistanding, of course, that the substance was fucked.

Seth says
Btw, these links are not in persuit of Why did peace fail ? they are given in support of the assumption that it failed because the so called "terorists" keep bombing regardless of what Israel does. If you already know the answer, then there is not reason to investigate. There is no reason to affix the tag: "item 4154" to it.

Mark de LA says
Now you are getting back to your old self - ad hominem ! Which strangely enough is not the stance for a pacifist , anti-war, appeaser.

Seth says

M 2006-08-15 12:25:56 4156

Now you are getting back to your old self - ad hominem ! Which strangely enough is not the stance for a pacifist , anti-war, appeaser.

Well i believe that i did responded to the substance of your item above, which you ignored. And, yes, this is just more of the same loop here. I guess

finds thing for idel fingers to do.

Btw, yours above are interesting links, i read them all. I'm just saying that i parsed them not as part of my inquiry, item 4154, but rather as part of the loop.

What is interesting about the Tau is that the black creates the white and visa versa. Which is something to think about whenever you get a unwanted respons from your enviornment ... and even when you get a wanted response from your enviornment. I was actually interested in your The Blogosphere and had interperted it as the white withdrawing from the Tau of fbi commentary and was wondering what fate awaited the back drop ... oh well ... no worry ... nothing changes ... all is the same. But it does bring to mind other options ... does it not? The direction something actually moves is the vector sum of the forces operating on it. You do create yor enemy. You fight against him to make him stronger. Stop the fight and he becomes a weakling.

Mark de LA says

source: ... You do create yor enemy. You fight against him to make him stronger. Stop the fight and he becomes a weakling.

...Got any examples? Sounds like you live in a fantasy. We got out of Mogadishu & that emboldened BinLaden. That began the war on terror. Up to that time Clinton had treated it as a problem for justice & lawyers. Every time we try to leave Iraq the insurgency gets bolder & makes bigger bombs. The Irsraeli & the Lebanese agreed to a cease-fire (of sorts) - I will bet that when it starts up again that it's a much bigger mess.

What you are speaking of is something like the Golden Rule that doesn't work on a large scale but only within individuals.

Seth says

M 2006-08-15 14:47:41 4156

source: ... You do create yor enemy. You fight against him to make him stronger. Stop the fight and he becomes a weakling.

Look, this is common knowledge and the examples are all over the place. It is a principal of biology. Try prunning a rose bush so that it makes more flowers. Try why boot camp in the army is so hard to get through. Try evolution itself ... survival is tough ... compare environments where survial is easier to where it is harder. Try a person's writings where nobody is arguing against him ... does not peer review make science articles more precise. Tell me when to stop .... Try Hezbollah ... what are they? ... 2nd generation terrorists? Try the fall of Rome ... fat and easy does not make for strength. Do you get it ... or do i need to go on? Try penicilian resistant microbes ... try terrorism ... try ...

And, no ... what i am speaking of has nothing to do with the Golden Rule. It is how biology works. It is the survival of the fittest.

Now, this biological principal that opposition creates strength should not be used to argue for appeasement in some military situation. Nor did i argue as such. Note the context in which i mentioned it.

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