Bad Polls

This item is dedicated to stupid polls, bad polls & manipulative polls most of which make no sense at all. The following stimulated my attention:
  1. August 23, 2006 - CNN - headlined as

    Poll: Most think bin Laden planning another U.S. attack

    ... why stupid? It is a self-fulfilling prophecy in disguise. It is more a measure of how well the media is spreading the scare of an attack than anything which predicts an attack. It is manipulative because most people are not thinking of an attack by bin Laden until the poll shows up. It is stupid because what the public thinks in terms of whether bin Laden is planning one has nothing to do with whether he is planning one. Indeed, it can be presumed that he always is planning another attack! BTW, the following (IMHO) is inaccurate as most in the headline:
    source: ... Seventy-four percent of the 1,033 adult Americans polled said they believe an attack is being planned, according to the poll conducted by Opinion Research Corporation on behalf of CNN.
    ... 74% is a large percentage, but is not most.  95% could be called most!
  1. August 24, - CNN - headlined as

    Poll: 1 in 4 Americans believe U.S. was safer before 9/11

    ... This one shows the stupidity of the Americans (I guess) . If they thought they were safer then & we were attacked on 9-11 what does that tell you about the validity of their opinions. Apparently CNN is coming out with one stupid poll per day. CNN is obviously trying to shill for the new Democrat party strategy that is vying for the security vote.
 


Tags

  1. polls
  2. stupid polls
  3. bad polls
  4. manipulative polls
  5. fearmongering

Comments


Mark de LA says
Here is an advertizing poll just for Seth:

Online poll ? Does it matter ? Is it an advertisement masquerading as a poll ? The link takes you to a 6 question poll that gives no results even if you fill it out.



Mark de LA says
seth 2006-08-23 06:44:54 4223
Good point .  This CNN poll is probably intended to whip up interest in Christiane Amanpour's documentary in the footsteps of Bin Laden which airs tonight.  
Yep along with the 5th anniversary of 9-11 coming up in a few weeks.

Mark de LA says
Here is a stupid poll: Is Hillary ready for the Presidency
Someone is hoping that it is a self-fulfilling prophecy.  Who, besides Hillary would know? Watch for an avalanche of these in the run up to the 2008 election.


Seth says
M 2006-09-01 05:27:18 4223
Here is a stupid poll: Is Hillary ready for the Presidency
Someone is hoping that it is a self-fulfilling prophecy.  Who, besides Hillary would know? Watch for an avalanche of these in the run up to the 2008 election.
Can we take your moon as adhominem or are you exempt ?

Mark de LA says
seth 2006-09-01 07:55:17 4223
M 2006-09-01 05:27:18 4223
Here is a stupid poll: Is Hillary ready for the Presidency
Someone is hoping that it is a self-fulfilling prophecy.  Who, besides Hillary would know? Watch for an avalanche of these in the run up to the 2008 election.
Can we take your moon as adhominem or are you exempt ?
The moon is for the poll not the person. Therefore it is NOT ad hominem by definition.

Mark de LA says
source: ... "I think this is Newsweek doing more push polling for al-Qaida," she said, referring to campaign-season telephone calls to voters masquerading as neutral surveys but designed to build opposition to targeted candidates.
... The article above illustrates the term push polling; although Ann Coulter may or not be your favorite reference.



Mark de LA says
seth 2007-05-09 08:32:15 4223
The funny part of the spin that Democrats are aligned with Al-Qaeda is that everybody knows that Bush is their right hand man ... afterall he gave them a whole new country to paly in.  Clinton treated them as the band of thugs that they are ... Bush elivated them to the mythical sainthood of an evil empire.   They own him ... they own him big time.
Well, Bill Clinton gave them Afganistan & Sudan - even refused to take Bin Laden when he was handed over on a silver platter; your Bush-bashing notwithstanding!


Seth says
M 2007-05-09 08:40:18 4223
seth 2007-05-09 08:32:15 4223
The funny part of the spin that Democrats are aligned with Al-Qaeda is that everybody knows that Bush is their right hand man ... afterall he gave them a whole new country to paly in.  Clinton treated them as the band of thugs that they are ... Bush elivated them to the mythical sainthood of an evil empire.   They own him ... they own him big time.
Well, Bill Clinton gave them Afganistan & Sudan - even refused to take Bin Laden when he was handed over on a silver platter; your Bush-bashing notwithstanding!

Yep, one could fault Clinton for not wiping them out sooner, he certainly was aware of the situation ... but then so was Bush ... remember that that pesky little urgent warning of imminent threat prior to 9-11 that Conde got ... so both presidents own Afganistan.  Bush, Chaney, and Mussaui, however, own Iraq.  They also own Al-Qaeda's status in the world.  Bush's anti-Qaeda rhetoric made Osama's day ... made him, and the thugs he leads, famous ... made them bigger than life ... big bucks spent on Madison avenue would have been a drop in the bucket to the boost he got from your belovid president's fumings.

Mark de LA says
seth 2007-05-09 09:17:08 4223
M 2007-05-09 08:40:18 4223
seth 2007-05-09 08:32:15 4223
The funny part of the spin that Democrats are aligned with Al-Qaeda is that everybody knows that Bush is their right hand man ... afterall he gave them a whole new country to paly in.  Clinton treated them as the band of thugs that they are ... Bush elivated them to the mythical sainthood of an evil empire.   They own him ... they own him big time.
Well, Bill Clinton gave them Afganistan & Sudan - even refused to take Bin Laden when he was handed over on a silver platter; your Bush-bashing notwithstanding!

Yep, one could fault Clinton for not wiping them out sooner, he certainly was aware of the situation ... but then so was Bush ... remember that that pesky little urgent warning of imminent threat prior to 9-11 that Conde got ... so both presidents own Afganistan.  Bush, Chaney, and Mussaui, however, own Iraq.  They also own Al-Qaeda's status in the world.  Bush's anti-Qaeda rhetoric made Osama's day ... made him, and the thugs he leads, famous ... made them bigger than life ... big bucks spent on Madison avenue would have been a drop in the bucket to the boost he got from your belovid president's fumings.
The RWG has run it's course on this one!  I guess you didn't get the earlier hints. The subject here was polls & push polls in particular - not Bush-bashing. Any more & I will have to go back to this group being a closed group.  Why don't you just create an item [title gratuitous bush bashing] or a group by the same name & get it out of your system!

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