The drums of war on Iran

Some senior Bush administration officials and top Republican lawmakers are voicing anger that American spy agencies have not issued more ominous warnings about the threats that they say Iran presents to the United States.
Ahmadinejad is riding high of this attention. The more he threatens and destabalizes, the higher oil prices rise, and the more money he gets for his adgenda. And he does have a very gloomy adgenda. That is the script of the beat of the drums of this war.
Sombody should get a message to Ahmadinejad and tell him to shut the fuck up. Does anybody know a different beat ?
Update 9/8/2006

"These sanctions that America has put on the agenda would hurt the world and the region before they hurt Iran" , Ayatollah Mohammad Emami Kashani said in a Friday prayer sermon carried live on state radio. "I hope they come to their senses and resolve what Iran is seeking with negotiations and do not let things become intense, ... will not give up scientific progress, one of whose signs is progress in nuclear energy. ... They cannot make this nation fall on its knees, ... "
Update 11-13-2006
"They (the Iranians) have to be afraid of the consequences if there isn't a compromise," spokeswoman Miri Eisin said Olmert told journalists on the flight to Washington.
Olmert appeared, however, to play down a senior Israeli official's suggestion that Israel is preparing for a military strike against Iran's nuclear program.
Asked to comment on Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh's remarks, Olmert replied that on such matters, "we have to be very careful about what we say," Eisin said. Sneh said last week that he considered a pre-emptive strike a last resort, but added that "even the last resort is sometimes the only resort."
The US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has found no strong evidence that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon, according to a US magazine report, details of which were released Sunday.
Update 12-21-2006
WASHINGTON, Dec. 20 The United States and Britain will begin moving additional warships and strike aircraft into the Persian Gulf region in a display of military resolve toward Iran that will come as the United Nations continues to debate possible sanctions against the country, Pentagon and military officials said Wednesday.
Update 08-15-2007
The White House hawks in Dick Cheney's office and elsewhere who want to stage an attack on Iran are clearly winning the internal power stuggle. And an often overlooked sub-plot on the long road toward war with Tehran is this: How could Bush stage an attack on Iran without the authorization of a skeptical, Democratic Congress?
Today, the White House has solved that pesky problem in one fell swoop. By explicitly linking the Iranian elite guard into the post 9/11 "global war on terror" in Iraq and Afghanistan, Bush's lawyers would certainly now argue that any military strike on Iran is now covered by the October 2002 authorization to use military force in Iraq, as part of their overly sweeping response to the 2001 attacks.
The world should "prepare for war" with Iran, the French foreign minister has said, significantly escalating tensions over the country's nuclear programme.
Update 12-04-2007
A new assessment by American intelligence agencies released Monday concludes that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003 and that the program remains frozen, contradicting a judgment two years ago that Tehran was working relentlessly toward building a nuclear bomb.
Update 03-31-2009
Netanyahu to Obama: Stop Iran"Or I Will
In an interview conducted shortly before he was sworn in today as prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu laid down a challenge for Barack Obama. The American president, he said, must stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons"and quickly"or an imperiled Israel may be forced to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities itself.


Mitt Romney, a Republican presidential hopeful, declares "If we re-elect Barack Obama, Iran will have a nuclear weapon. And if you elect Mitt Romney, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon".
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Now that i think about it, this does belong here ...
Another thought experiment: Imagine for a moment that the British government arrested the 23 suspects without fanfare. Imagine that the TSA and its European counterparts didn't engage in pointless airline-security measures like banning liquids. And imagine that the press didn't write about it endlessly, and that the politicians didn't use the event to remind us all how scared we should be. If we'd reacted that way, then the terrorists would have truly failed.
It's time we calm down and fight terror with antiterror. This does not mean that we simply roll over and accept terrorism. There are things our government can and should do to fight terrorism, most of them involving intelligence and investigation -- and not focusing on specific plots.
But our job is to remain steadfast in the face of terror, to refuse to be terrorized. Our job is to not panic every time two Muslims stand together checking their watches. There are approximately 1 billion Muslims in the world, a large percentage of them not Arab, and about 320 million Arabs in the Middle East, the overwhelming majority of them not terrorists. Our job is to think critically and rationally, and to ignore the cacophony of other interests trying to use terrorism to advance political careers or increase a television show's viewership.
Btw, are we still following Zarqawi's script ?
It suggests carrying out a range of terrorist acts for which it will falsely implicate Iran, including bombings in the West and kidnappings. It also recommends declaring the existence of a relationship between Iran and terrorist groups
Finally somebody says it ...
Because I know the habits and behavior of the experts, their ulterior motives, and their sorry track-record, what they have to say about Iran has to be filtered and discounted.
Just a note on timing: If Bush starts the war with Iran, does he not need a resolution from Congress? If so, then he will probably do it before the November mid term election. Otherwise he may not have the majority in Congress to pass it. If Israel starts the war, then Olmert will do it before his government falls ... perhaps to prevent it's fall. The next couple months are going to be a clif hanger. I suggest investing in CNN stock.
I'm not sure i agree with everything this guy says, but it is sure nice to hear somebody putting dampers on the drums. Start looking around for some real solid even handed intelligence about Iran. Find out if the are really a threat to our security ... even the security of Israel. Don't succum to the drums. Look for the facts. Ignore the op-ed pieces.
Stopping enrichment is the ultimate goal of the entire negotiation process. By complying, Iran would lose its game before it even started. If the 5+1 countries would like to convince Iran to give up on such a crucial issue, they have to offer more than some economic promises.
This, in my opinion, could only be a solid guarantee by the U.S. that it would abandon its policies to topple the Islamic Republic either by military force or internal unrest with ultimately a non-violent revolution fueled by various American foundations -- another velvet revolution.
Such a guarantee will be good news for the organic pro-democracy activists, if backed up by meaningful signs such as dismantling the Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MKO) and stopping funding quasi-human-rights advocacy groups such as IDHCR which pursue regime change under cover of documenting violations of human rights, as was reported earlier this year by Washington Post's Karl Vick and David Finkel from Tehran.
U.S. regime change policies have been damaging the moderates and pro-democracy movement by enabling the Islamic Republic to paint them as instruments of America seeking to destabilize and topple the regime. Iran wont stop until this does.
We see another glimmer of an agreement here ...
European and Iranian negotiators on Sunday concluded their most positive meeting for over a year, raising the possibility
Well maybe if they would quit waging war on Western powers we could do just that! I wonder how much of our blood & national treasure could have been devoted to freeing ourselves of the Oil Addiction rather than protecting ourselves from another 9-11 & the Islamofaschists. But, that is another chicken & egg problem. I would be real happy for the USA to leave the Middle East to it's own rot - but first I think the Middle East would need to free itself from their Western Money Addiction!


Look every religion trys to spread itself. That is what religions do, especially fundamentalist ones. You need to spearate that tendancy from a military intention to conquer. Now you could predict that should they be successful in getting US out of the middle east, they will become even more agressive. But we do not hear that threat from Islamic clerics or terrorists. No, we hear it from spin doctors who are beating the drums of war.
Some of the drumbeats of war are chronicled in this admittedly right wing book -> Interesting parallel to the ABC docudrama.
uri http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=1838- look at the titles as well below the advert.
TTFN
The TIME mag hook almost makes me want to buy the article or subscribe - (but, I know better). If it is any good it is TREASON - giving easy information scenario to the enemy. If it is bad it just sells magazines.
"Interviews with dozens of experts and government officials in Washington, Tehran and elsewhere in the Middle East paint a sobering picture: Military action against Iran's nuclear facilities would have a decent chance of succeeding, but at a staggering cost."
All the knowledge of experts, ex-military etc at the hands of the enemy.
ALL that & an interview with the ass**le himself.



Yep drums of war. It might be interesting to go back and find the Time article for the run up to the Iraq war ... run up to the VietNam war ... run up the the Korean war. Time might even have this down to a template.
I'm sure glad I lost track of this shit for a week!
FYI, Netanyahu is supposed to be on Beck tonight on the same channel for a whole hour.
It was interesting. Worth while if you read between the lines. No transcript. Not much new, it was more interesting in terms of Netanyahu's way of making the case for prempting a nuclear attack.
Me thinks, Netanyahu's current adgenda is promoting a preemptive strike by Israel against Iran's nuclear industry. However, if you think about it, based upon the US's strong support of Israel, and based upon Ahmadinejad's rhetoric, if they strike, the reprecussions comming from Iran will toll against the US as well. Hense, Israel cannot act independant of US. So watch the rhetoric comming from the administration in the next month of so ... see if it changes to become more hard line and balligerant. If it does, invest in oil futures.
Btw, it is kind of silly to make on-going comments on a private item, with a FYI intro.


Being afraid of an if-come and then acting in a way to bring on your most dire fears is not, imho, a good stratagy. If the US really wants to prevent more nuclear powers and being blackmailed, there are more direct ways to prevent it.
It's interesting how the Jerusalem Post picks up on what Seymour Hersh says and reworks it without adding any new information ... or did they ... you tell me. I'm still predicting that if this strike happens, it will come first from Israel.
Being afraid of an if-come and then acting in a way to bring on your most dire fears is not, imho, a good stratagy. If the US really wants to prevent more nuclear powers and being blackmailed, there are more direct ways to prevent it.
Being afraid of an if-come and then acting in a way to bring on your most dire fears is not, imho, a good stratagy. If the US really wants to prevent more nuclear powers and being blackmailed, there are more direct ways to prevent it.

Yeah, M, that sounds like Glen Beck's script. Believing and fearing such a senario becomes self fulfiling ... like a crazy man wandering the streets shouting about the Apocalypse and finally jumping into suicide in stark fear. But i predict that there will be smart politicians who don't buy into it ... maybe even ones who read NRO. The clear path is to withdraw from the Bush doctrine, Israel to stop its opression of Palestine, and Eliminate All Nuclear Weapons ... even ours. ... A win-win plan for the world ... or go for Victory .... go for we-win/they-loose ... and end up with Glen Beck's Apocalypse ... a nice big loose-loose for everybody.
Iran was largely cut off from global commerce Thursday after the company that handles worldwide financial transactions said it was severing ties with many Iranian banks to back EU sanctions against Tehran.
The action by the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, or SWIFT, aims to enforce European Union sanctions discouraging Tehran from developing nuclear weapons.




Actually the story reads: "plans have been drawn up to bomb Israel if the Jewish state attacks Iran" ... which is just self defense an not the agression that you have misrepresented above.
Read the article in Salon: Why Bush won't attack Iran? ... which, you will see, should better be titled "Why Bush will attack Iran?". The administration is really cranking up this war ... perhaps it is trying to change the dynamics of the electorate and get a Republican elected president ... or perhaps ensure that we are in a perpetual conflict with the Muslim world ... it's hard to imagine what they are thinking ... but it is time to kick these warmongers out of office before they do any more damage!

WASHINGTON, Dec. 5
It's not inconcievable that both the intelligence community and the administration wanted it to get out. I can see how making this public might even encourage Iran to become more open about what they are doing with the intention to make their nuclear power program actually legit. Bush then continues to play bad cop to the IAEA's good cop. An alternate interpertation can be found in this Times article.
Other similar sources:




The sooner america goes to war with Iran the better, because thousands of gi's will be slaughtered and then maybe the usa will the get the message, get you nose the fuck out of other peoples business!



PAPER: 'BUSH PLANS IRAN ATTACK BEFORE END OF TERM'...
White House denounces story...
Iran spurs arms race: 13 Mideast states have advanced nuclear programs...
Iran launches fresh crackdown on websites...
What would O do?

"If Iran continues its nuclear weapons programme, we will attack it," said Shaul Mofaz, who is also transportation minister.










JERUSALEM - Israel gave serious thought earlier this year to a military strike on Iran's nuclear sites but was told by President Bush he would not support it, Britain's Guardian newspaper reported Friday.
"We don't have to second-guess what their efforts would be if they believe … that it is in their country and their allies, including us, all of our best interests to fight against a regime, especially Iran, who would seek to wipe them off the face of the earth. It is obvious to me who the good guys are in this one and who the bad guys are. The bad guys are the ones who say Israel is a stinking corpse and should be wiped off the face of the earth. That's not a good guy who is saying that. Now, one who would seek to protect the good guys in this, the leaders of Israel and her friends, her allies, including the United States, in my world, those are the good guys. "






AHMADINEJAD SAYS USA MUST APOLOGIZE TO IRAN OVER PAST ACTIONS...
Change means ending support for 'Zionists'..




The U.S. military is planning to intercept a flagged North Korean ship suspected of proliferating weapons material in violation of a U.N. Security Council resolution passed last Friday, FOX News has learned.
The USS John McCain, a navy destroyer, will intercept the ship Kang Nam as soon as it leaves the vicinity off the coast of China, according to a senior U.S. defense official. The order to inderdict has not been given yet, but the ship is getting into position.
The ship left a port in North Korea Wednesday and appears to be heading toward Singapore, according to a senior U.S. military source. The vessel, which the military has been tracking since its departure, could be carrying weaponry, missile parts or nuclear materials, a violation of U.N. Resolution 1874, which put sanctions in place against Pyongyang.

"Our talks (with major powers) will only be in the framework of cooperation for managing global issues and nothing else. We have clearly announced this," Ahmadinejad said.
"The nuclear issue is a finished issue for us," he told a news conference.

Iran sends six warships to international waters...
'Historically unprecedented'...
Ahmadinejad rejects Western nuclear proposal...
...wants to debate Obama at UN
The U.S. military is tracking a flagged North Korean ship suspected of proliferating weapons material in violation of a U.N. Security Council resolution passed last Friday, FOX News has learned.
The ship, Kang Nam, left a port in North Korea Wednesday and could be carrying weaponry, missile parts or nuclear materials. The U.S. military has been tracking it since its departure.
"It is believed to be 'of interest,'" a senior U.S. official told FOX News.
This is the first suspected "proliferator" that the U.S. and its allies have tracked from North Korea since the United Nations authorized the world's navies to enforce compliance with a variety of U.N. sanctions aimed at punishing North Korea for its recent nuclear test.
North Korea, though, has said that any attempt to board its ships would be viewed as an act of war and promised "100- or 1,000-fold" retaliation if provoked.
The Kang Nam is known to be a ship that has been involved in proliferation activities in the past -- it is "a repeat offender," according to one military source.


...what could become very worrisome is if N. Korea (Norks) manage to export enough weaponized Plutonium to Iran in it's current bid to piss off the US.
What needs to happen is that they are allowed to refine Uranium for their nuclear power, but totally open themselves to inspection with no obstruction. I know that is not going to be a popular choice with hard line conservatives, but it does meet the realities of the situation. So Iran has the choice of joining the world community as a major middle east power or being an outcast with sustained sanctions. I think that a majority of the Iranian people will want just that ... and i also think that Obama will offer it to them. Ahmadinejad is basically a militarist and if he stays in power he will make this alternative very difficult. He will move towards escalating tensions ending in a Israeli strike. We of course must back up Israel if they strike. It is hard to predict where that will end.
At least that's the way i read the script this June morning in 2009.
Iran's envoy to the UN atomic watchdog caused a buzz among journalists on Wednesday when he apparently misspoke and said his country had the right to a nuclear weapon.
After saying as usual that Iran was only pursuing nuclear energy for civilian purposes, Ali Asghar Soltanieh strayed alarmingly from the Islamic republic's usual line.
"The whole Iranian nation are united... on (the) inalienable right of (having a) nuclear weapon," the envoy to the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency said.

The enrichment process can be configured to produce fuel either for nuclear power plants or weapons.
"(Iran) wants to send a message to its neighbors, it wants to send a message to the rest of the world: yes, don't mess with us, we can have nuclear weapons if we want it," said ElBaradei.
"But the ultimate aim of Iran, as I understand it, is that they want to be recognized as a major power in the Middle East and they are. "This is to them the road to get that recognition to power and prestige and ... an insurance policy against what they heard in the past about regime change, axis of evil."


Ahmadinejad indicated on Sunday nuclear policy would not change in his second term since the issue "belongs in the past."



Ahmadinejad indicated on Sunday nuclear policy would not change in his second term since the issue "belongs in the past."

The enrichment process can be configured to produce fuel either for nuclear power plants or weapons.
"(Iran) wants to send a message to its neighbors, it wants to send a message to the rest of the world: yes, don't mess with us, we can have nuclear weapons if we want it," said ElBaradei.
"But the ultimate aim of Iran, as I understand it, is that they want to be recognized as a major power in the Middle East and they are. "This is to them the road to get that recognition to power and prestige and ... an insurance policy against what they heard in the past about regime change, axis of evil."



Events are fast pushing Israel toward a pre-emptive military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, probably by next spring. That strike could well fail. Or it could succeed at the price of oil at $300 a barrel, a Middle East war, and American servicemen caught in between. So why is the Obama administration doing everything it can to speed the war process along?
At July's G-8 summit in Italy, Iran was given a September deadline to start negotiations over its nuclear programs. Last week, Iran gave its answer: No.
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That impression is strengthened by Mr. Obama's decision to drop Iran from the agenda when he chairs a meeting of the U.N. Security Council on Sept. 24; by Defense Secretary Robert Gates publicly opposing military strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities; and by Russia's announcement that it will not support any further sanctions on Iran.







But, thanks M for notifying me, i haven't been paying much attention to this shit lately. Been working hard trying to get tagtalking.net/test up.
"The Iranian nation, with its unity and God's grace, will punch the arrogance (Western powers) on the 22nd of Bahman (February 11) in a way that will leave them stunned," Khamenei, who is also Iran's commander-in-chief, told a gathering of air force personnel.
















"The Navy of the Iranian Army will have a powerful presence near the United States borders," read the headline of the story, in Farsi.
"Commander of the Navy of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Iran broke the news about the plans for the presence of this force in the Atlantic Ocean and said that the same way that the world arrogant power is present near our marine borders, we, with the help of our sailors who follow the concept of the supreme jurisprudence, shall also establish a powerful presence near the marine borders of the United States," the story said. The reference to the "world arrogant power" was presumably intended to refer to the United States.



My preference would be to make them all disappear without a trace & when Iran complains ask "What Ships?"


Iran's former president warns of possible US attack...






Iran is saying that they "electronically hijacked the drone and steered it to the ground" ... watch their video.
Even if Congress intended to stop the arms race, which they overwhelmingly do not, i doubt that they could. That would be something that would need of the changing the nature of society ... not so very easy to legislate that kind of thing. Who knows, perhaps if Ron Paul could get elected, we would move in that direction.
FROM DRUDGE THIS MORNING. I WONDER WHO HELPED IRAN HACK THE DRONE & WHY OBAMA DID'NT BOMB IT WHEN IT WAS OUT IN THE OPEN?
If the world wants to make the region insecure, we will make the world insecure'...
Iran lodges complaint with Interpol over U.S. 'assassination threats'...

WAR GAMES: IRAN TO CLOSE STRAIT OF HORMUZ
If Iran closes the straits, even for an hour, i think that will be a act of war. Sadly this is another case of "what are these ass holes thinking" ... and all the ass holes are not in Iran ... luckily one of the ass holes is not named Obama.


http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/29/world/meast/iran-strait-hormuz-explainer/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

BTW, imho & in my naval science classes a blockade is considered an act of war. It was essentially the act of war that started the civil war with the North blockading the South: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_blockade
.... they should find other ways of sanctioning Iran. Nobody has said they are going to blockade Iran yet. Hence mostly sabre rattling.

WAR DRUMS: Iran threatens action if U.S. carrier returns...
'Not in the habit of warning more than once'...
Missile Drill Results Exaggerated, Images Photoshopped...
U.S.: We're staying in the Persian Gulf...
....
I'm asking seriously, what does dove do with a belligerant, suicidal, nation? Ignore?

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran has begun uranium enrichment at a new underground site built to withstand possible airstrikes, a leading hard-line newspaper reported Sunday in another show of defiance against Western pressure to rein in Tehran's nuclear program.
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran has begun uranium enrichment at a new underground site built to withstand possible airstrikes, a leading hard-line newspaper reported Sunday in another show of defiance against Western pressure to rein in Tehran's nuclear program.
The Obama administration is relying on a secret channel of communication to warn Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, that closing the Strait of Hormuz is a “red line” that would provoke an American response, according to United States government officials.
The Obama administration is relying on a secret channel of communication to warn Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, that closing the Strait of Hormuz is a “red line” that would provoke an American response, according to United States government officials.

... a senior Iranian official said Iran would “definitely” close the Strait of Hormuz if an EU oil embargo disrupted the export of crude oil.
That plot “shows that some Iranian officials — probably including Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei — have changed their calculus and are now more willing to conduct an attack in the United States in response to real or perceived U.S. actions that threaten the regime,” Clapper said in the testimony, which was submitted to the Senate Intelligence Committee in advance of a threat assessment hearing Tuesday. “We are also concerned about Iranian plotting against U.S. or allied interests overseas.”



But, how about this ... Iran will be playing a "You can't hurt us" game here ... read this report. That does help us, and them, avoid a war. I just wonder if that game can be played all the way to the end of the year.

Your Move!
That plot “shows that some Iranian officials " probably including Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei " have changed their calculus and are now more willing to conduct an attack in the United States in response to real or perceived U.S. actions that threaten the regime,”

Me, i would think that this is more the kind of thing to listen to. Both adversaries are playing here with double edged swords. Don't watch Israel and don't watch the bomb ... watch the oil. I keep wondering if Obama will come to a point where the decision on one hand is go to war with Iran and pay $10/gal for gas ... or on the other hand not to go to war and still pay $10/ gal. $10/gal probably implies Obama will loose the election. So, me thinks the trick is not to let it come to that ... which trick also keeps us out of a war.
...mass producing cruise missile
SPLIT OVER STRIKE!
ISRAELI FACILITIES IN N AMERICA, WORLD ON HIGH ALERT...
Iran warns world of coming 'great event'...
Developing Missile 'That Could Reach America'...
Launchs small satellite into orbit...
Iran 'detaining' relatives of journalists...

The Iranian government, through a website proxy, has laid out the legal and religious justification for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of its people.
Calling Israel a danger to Islam, the conservative website Alef, with ties to Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said the opportunity must not be lost to remove “this corrupting material. It is a ‘jurisprudential justification” to kill all the Jews and annihilate Israel, and in that, the Islamic government of Iran must take the helm.”
& Because Israel is going to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities, Iran is justified in launching a pre-emptive, cataclysmic attack against the Jewish state, the doctrine argues.

Officials in key parts of the Obama administration are increasingly convinced that sanctions will not deter Tehran from pursuing its nuclear programme, and believe that the US will be left with no option but to launch an attack on Iran or watch Israel do so.
The president has made clear in public, and in private to Israel, that he is determined to give sufficient time for recent measures, such as the financial blockade and the looming European oil embargo, to bite deeper into Iran's already battered economy before retreating from its principal strategy to pressure Tehran.
Dispatches warships back to Mediterranean... (tee hee hee on that drudge headline pair) & Syria heats up with: REPORT: US sends in drones... (What was that song ... Send in the Clowns ? Syria being a Tehran puppet/proxy makes this not off topic.





TEHRAN, Iran – Iran said it would it would “act without waiting” with regards to protecting its national interests that may be threatened by foreign countries, Reuters reported.
The report said Mohammad Hejazi, the deputy head of the Islamic Republic’s armed forces, told the country’s semi-official news agency news to the country’s pre-emptive stance.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/02/21/iran-says-un-nuke-inspectors-will-not-visit-sites/#ixzz1n2SW91re
UN sees spike in Tehran's uranium production...
NYT: US spies see no evidence of bomb... (naturally for the NYT - I suspect that the first evidence will be a mushroom cloud over TelAviv or NYC)




TAKES UP IRAN...
Will sit with Netanyahu...
'I Don't Bluff'...
COMPARES HIMSELF TO GANDHI, NELSON MANDELA...
Re: 6 B.S. Myths ...

Well i agree, worrying is a waste of time. My question is whether to add my voice to the mob crying for war, or the one cautioning against it. To that question, my answer is a resounding: "Give peace a chance" ! I can only hope that, under a sober leadership, a complete understanding of the divisions in Iran and how the messages spoken by POTUS can affect an Iranian decisions will emerge ... obviously flower power will do nothing.
In breaking news this morning, the president said to Netanyahu that "We have your back" ... presenting a unified front against Iran and perhaps putting more pressure on Iran to move in the right direction under threat that Israel will strike them and be backed up with the might of the US military. But what Netanyahu said in response was actually more interesting: "Israel must reserve the right to defend itself and after all, that's the very purpose of the Jewish state, to restore to the Jewish people control over our destiny, [bold emphasis mine]" .... in other words, watch our Iran, you have but a short time to back off the bomb. It will be interesting to see if those messages and emphasis will change after their meeting.






The Pentagon’s senior policy official, who until recently took part in detailed war planning, said on Tuesday that U.S. military strike plans for Iranian nuclear facilities are very advanced and ready for use.
Michele Flournoy, who last month stepped down as undersecretary of defense for policy, also said the Obama administration is opposed to using force now because of worries that Iran will redouble its nuclear arms work, increase the secrecy of its program, and use proxy terrorists in the region to attack Americans.
“The United States military has very developed contingency plans for just about everything imaginable, including this scenario,” Flournoy said during her first public remarks since leaving the Pentagon. “And those plans are there, they exist, they are ready.”



Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu requested the United States approve the sale of advanced refueling aircraft as well as GBU-28 bunker-piercing bombs to Israel during a recent meeting with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, a top U.S. official said on Tuesday.
The American official said that U.S. President Barack Obama instructed Panetta to work directly with Defense Minister Ehud Barak on the matter, indicating that the U.S. administration was inclined to look favorably upon the request as soon as possible.
Satellite images of an Iranian military facility appear to show trucks and earth-moving vehicles at the site, indicating an attempted cleanup radioactive traces possibly left by tests of a nuclear-weapon trigger, diplomats told The Associated Press on Wednesday.
Two of the diplomats said the crews may be trying to erase evidence of tests of a small experimental neutron device used to set off a nuclear explosion. A third diplomat could not confirm that but said any attempt to trigger a so-called neutron initiator at the Parchin site could only be in the context of trying to develop nuclear arms.
The diplomats are nuclear experts accredited to the International Atomic Energy Agency. All asked for anonymity to discuss sensitive information
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/03/07/iran-reportedly-cleaning-up-nuclear-work/?test=latestnews#ixzz1oTtLr3Oh
In the interview Friday with the Israel Hayom daily, Barak recalled a speech given in 2003 by the then-Iranian president Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, who, said Barak, spoke of Israel as being “so small and vulnerable that it is a ‘one-bomb’ nation.
“If one bomb were dropped on it, this nation would not return to its former glory,” Barak quoted Rafsanjani as saying. “After the exchange of blows, Rafsanjani said, Islam would remain and Israel would not remain as it was. He also noted that there need not be any clear markers on the bomb as to where it came from. It could be transported in a shipping container that arrives at some port and simply explodes.”







Iran: Israel's existence 'insult to all humanity'...
Saudi Cleric: Jews consume blood of children...
Hezbollah's vow to turn Israel into 'a real hell'...
I am suspicious of any article which uses the word neocon. That word is used by liberals like the n-word is used by racists imho. You can do a google Gwenyth Todd & get a lot more stuff.


Iran to hold massive air defense drill in October...
LOOKS LIKE THOSE SANCTIONS ARE REALLY WORKING FOR THE PEACE PRIZE WINNER, EH?
... CONTINUED WORK ON SECURE NUKE SITES BY IRAN -
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/world/middleeast/nuclear-inspectors-confirm-iranian-progress.html?_r=1&hp

With all the Arab Fall & stuff happening in the Middle East, where is the UN? Our president went to Vegas to raise more funds.

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iran's top Army Commander Major General Ataollah Salehi on Tuesday warned the US to avoid sending back its aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf

When the USS John C. Stennis reaches the Persian Gulf, which is scheduled to be in one month’s time, they will join the USS Enterprise Strike Group, giving the United States military a significant presence in the region amid concerns of a conflict between Israel and Iran, which could provoke Iranian responses that would attempt to disrupt commercial shipping lanes in the area.
Makes His Case...
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Iran seems to be one of the few countries that has been bellicose toward another country (Israel) for so long & yet continues to refine uranium & has backing of Russia & China. What does she expect? Maybe she thinks this is her best shot time-wise. The United Nations has no teeth. The US has teeth for a while, but may be afraid to use them.


Makes His Case...
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Iran seems to be one of the few countries that has been bellicose toward another country (Israel) for so long & yet continues to refine uranium & has backing of Russia & China. What does she expect? Maybe she thinks this is her best shot time-wise. The United Nations has no teeth. The US has teeth for a while, but may be afraid to use them.


I noticed that Netanyahu did not point to, or even hint at, any new intelligence to back up his claim ... and that he said substantially the same thing in 1992. How much of this panic about a red line real? ... how much of it is made up ... to coincide with other current political events in Israel and US ?
Makes His Case...
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Iran seems to be one of the few countries that has been bellicose toward another country (Israel) for so long & yet continues to refine uranium & has backing of Russia & China. What does she expect? Maybe she thinks this is her best shot time-wise. The United Nations has no teeth. The US has teeth for a while, but may be afraid to use them.


I noticed that Netanyahu did not point to, or even hint at, any new intelligence to back up his claim ... and that he said substantially the same thing in 1992. How much of this panic about a red line real? ... how much of it is made up ... to coincide with other current political events in Israel and US ?

What can make it work even stronger in a Teddy Roosevelt kind of way of speaking softly & carrying a big stick is to make the stick real enough for the opposition to believe it. The current regime is doing it's best to throw the stick away.

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Iran's Revolutionary Guards committed to
'Death to America'
In light of negotiations with US, conservative groups in Iran call for continued use of 'Death to America' as official slogan, celebrate anniversary of US Embassy hostage crisis

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