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About: william f. buckley jr. on what if we left? on national review online

I wonder if Seth can refrain from ad hominem attacks and talk to the substance this time.

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Seth says
Well there certainly are lots of parallells between VietNam and Iraq ...  not the least of which is that if we "cut and run" we can expect the same result.  I already expressed my take on this in Cut and run ?.  What Buckley does not address is the alternatives to both "cut and run" and "stay the course". 

Mark de LA says
seth 2006-08-31 02:26:02 4290
M 2006-08-30 20:27:37 4290
& what is S suggesting is he can find one ?
I don't know enough about M.E. to be the one to come up with it ... but i touched on some suggestions in my item Cut and run ? and in its comments especially this article by Joseph Biden ranking Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee
Joe Biden has no solutions - he's just trying to sound like a presidential candidate. Anything that opposes Bush is his meat. Get rid of the Mahdi Army & all other armed militias & you will do a better job of maintaining security in Iraq.  Notice S has slipped over into his Iraq loop (script) here. I was asking for a solution in Israel.

Mark de LA says
& what is S suggesting is he can find one ?


Seth says
M 2006-08-30 20:27:37 4290
& what is S suggesting is he can find one ?
I don't know enough about M.E. to be the one to come up with it ... but i touched on some suggestions in my item Cut and run ? and in its comments especially this article by Joseph Biden ranking Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee

Seth says
M 2006-08-31 05:32:24 4290
Notice S has slipped over into his Iraq loop (script) here. I was asking for a solution in Israel.
Well Buckley was talking about Iraq.  Btw, just asserting the Biden's has no plan without saying why the plan he described is flawed does not inform in the least.

Mark de LA says
seth 2006-08-31 06:04:11 4290
M 2006-08-31 05:32:24 4290
Notice S has slipped over into his Iraq loop (script) here. I was asking for a solution in Israel.
Well Buckley was talking about Iraq.  Btw, just asserting the Biden's has no plan without saying why the plan he described is flawed does not inform in the least.
The Iraqi people have more identity & power as Iraquis than they have as ethnic minorities. Turkey will object & get into the act if the Kurds go independent. Biden is just posturing.

Mark de LA says
Note that those who have a vested interest in there being a civil war in Iraq & oppose democracy in the Middle East resist the idea that they have more power together as a country than they do separately as tribes.

Mark de LA says
seth 2006-08-31 06:56:46 4290
M 2006-08-31 06:39:09 4290
The Iraqi people have more identity & power as Iraquis than they have as ethnic minorities.
I'm curious, how did you arrive at that opinion?  Everything i have read indicates quite the opposite.
I recently heard it on Fox News in SPECIAL REPORT W/ BRIT HUME . I don't know where it would be in writing on the internet. There may be others. The thing about Turkey & the Kurds was the problem at the very beginning of the Iraq war where the Turks wouldn't allow the US to use their bases because they feared a Kurd uprising.

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