I Am Not Anti-Semitic, ...

... but the following account is at least partually true:
source: Ahmed Amr
Historically, Israel

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Seth says
M 2006-09-06 08:32:08 4334
Methinks you protest too much! Most people do not need to declare " I am Not Anti-Semitic" !
Well it is definitely not PC in the USA to criticize Israel.  You will find that those who do will very rapidly be called Anti-Semites.  Since i have set out here to collect instances where Israel's behavior is in question, i felt it necessary to clarify, out front, that i have no Anti-Semitic adgenda here.  But i am sure that i will be accused of it anyway. 

Seth says
(2) visa policies in the West Bank
source: scotsman.com
ISRAELI officials have confirmed a tightening of visa policies in the West Bank that could force thousands of Palestinians to leave the occupied area.

Palestinians with foreign passports who have lived for up to 12 years in the West Bank on tourist visas, many of them raising families, are for the first time being turned away at the border as they try to re-enter.

The change in approach has far-reaching and dire humanitarian, social and economic repercussions, Israeli and Palestinian critics say.

It is already separating foreign spouses from their families in the West Bank and the exclusion of expatriates promises to erode the Palestinian middle class and further harm the depressed Palestinian economy, the critics warn.
Apparently this policy has been confirmed by Israel.  There are lots of stories about its negative effects on the population.  We need to find where Israel justifies it.

Seth says
source: Israeli officials: Recent demolition of 22 homes in Nablus was a mistake
On Saturday the 26th of August, Israeli military invaded the Jabal Shamali area of Nablus and destroyed 22 homes, according to an eyewitness report from the International Solidarity Movement. The next day, Israel

TVO says
it's very hard to criticise, because if you say one thing about Israel, even just a little commen, or a question. you're being called nazi or anti-semetic. But we just need to see things even if we don't wanna see them. by doing that, we can change them

anti-anti says
If you say something against the prophet you might get killed!
I wonder which is worse, TVO ?

Seth says
MR 2009-06-14 19:50:31 4334
Too bad you missed the point. It has nothing to do with Zionism or the Middle East. It has to do with a typical stereotype of Jews & the Democrats failed the test 2:1 against the Republicans.  It is not surprising that an Obama-juice drinker would think he sees an ass while looking in the mirror.

No i got the point just perfect, your inability to understand English notwithstanding.  Which is to say: Asking a question about blaming Jews for the financial crisis, and then parsing that out between democrat and republican is about what i would expect from the Weekly Standard's usual cherry picking behavior.  In other words this study you found is meaningless. I also told you something about my own attitudes about what Jews are doing in the middle east ... after all that is what this item is all about.

Seth says
MR 2009-06-14 07:31:08 4334
Here are some clues as to who are the antisemites:
source: ...

But what the Stanford and Columbia academics find “somewhat surprising” is the partisan breakdown among the American public: “Democrats were especially prone to blaming Jews: while 32 percent of Democrats accorded at least moderate blame, only 18.4 percent of Republicans did so (a statistically significant difference).” Why is this surprising? Because of “the presumed higher degree of racial tolerance among liberals and the fact that Jews are a central part of the Democratic Party’s electoral coalition.”

Or maybe most American Jews foolishly continue to maintain allegiance to a party that includes lots of people who don’t like them much (and who certainly don’t like Israel much)? And maybe there isn’t in fact a higher degree of tolerance (for Jews, at least) among Democrats than Republicans?

In any case, just to restate: In a survey administered by (apparently) liberal academics, looking at attitudes not towards Israel or Likud but towads Jews per se--Democrats are almost twice as likely to be hostile to Jews than Republicans.


...
Now, with the Democrat Party in charge is there any wonder how things are shifting in the Middle East?
Well i would not overlook the blame that some Israeli Jews have for the problems in Palestine.  But, that does not translate into blaming American Jews for the financial crisis.   Asking a question about blaming Jews for the financial crisis, and then parsing that out between democrat and republican is about what i would expect from the Weekly Standard's usual cherry picking behavior.   Ask a stupid question and you will get a stupid answer.  Then making extrapolations from the stupid answers is ... how shall i put it ... asinine?

Seth says
MR 2009-06-15 20:52:05 4334
Yeah, well known democrats like Jeremiah Wright & Jesse Jackson notwithstanding
The problem with your cherry picking individuals is that we can match each of them with an entire organization that is predominantly Republican and Anti-Semitic.  For this match i choose the KKK which is rabidly Anti-Semitic and being from the South mostly votes Republican.  I'll bet the Boston Review's study didn't include any KKK members in the sample.

The bone i am picking with your train is your snide conclusion about the Obama administration.  Now if i wanted to cherry pick an individual, i could mention Obama's chief of staff who even served as a civilian volunteer assisting the Israel Defense Forces.  But my point is that drawing conclusions from cherry picking torts of 714 is useless.

Why not discuss the real issue.  It is true that this administration is making a clear stand against Israeli settlements.  Now that has nothing to do with being Anti-Semitic and everything to do with what is necessary for a fair solution to the Palestinian issue.

Mark de LA says
seth 2009-06-16 08:06:35 4334
MR 2009-06-15 20:52:05 4334
Yeah, well known democrats like Jeremiah Wright & Jesse Jackson notwithstanding
The problem with your cherry picking individuals is that we can match each of them with an entire organization that is predominantly Republican and Anti-Semitic.  For this match i choose the KKK which is rabidly Anti-Semitic and being from the South mostly votes Republican.  I'll bet the Boston Review's study didn't include any KKK members in the sample.

The bone i am picking with your train is your snide conclusion about the Obama administration.  Now if i wanted to cherry pick an individual, i could mention Obama's chief of staff who even served as a civilian volunteer assisting the Israel Defense Forces.  But my point is that drawing conclusions from cherry picking torts of 714 is useless.

Why not discuss the real issue.  It is true that this administration is making a clear stand against Israeli settlements.  Now that has nothing to do with being Anti-Semitic and everything to do with what is necessary for a fair solution to the Palestinian issue.
Your use of the KKK is stupid!  I will never believe a poll or generalization that you present if that's your belief.  My article had nothing to do with the Israeli settlements at all - you have still failed to get that.  This administration does think it can ram a plan down Israel's throat as they seem to want to ram everything else down the American public's. Today it's healthcare where they seem to have taken over the ABC network for a couple hours. So much for the independent media. A king or a dictator can do that, but I thought we had a democratic republic. Oh, well.....
 - most of America isn't awake or doesn't give a shit.

Seth says
MR 2009-06-15 10:57:44 4334
seth 2009-06-15 03:15:32 4334
MR 2009-06-14 19:50:31 4334
Too bad you missed the point. It has nothing to do with Zionism or the Middle East. It has to do with a typical stereotype of Jews & the Democrats failed the test 2:1 against the Republicans.  It is not surprising that an Obama-juice drinker would think he sees an ass while looking in the mirror.

No i got the point just perfect, your inability to understand English notwithstanding.  Which is to say: Asking a question about blaming Jews for the financial crisis, and then parsing that out between democrat and republican is about what i would expect from the Weekly Standard's usual cherry picking behavior.  In other words this study you found is meaningless. I also told you something about my own attitudes about what Jews are doing in the middle east ... after all that is what this item is all about.
Too bad your knee jerked too quickly - you forgot to vance to the original study linked to in the blog. Here it is! It was originally structured to gauge what the Bernie Madoff pyramid scandal could elicit about anti-semitism based on his being Jewish. It goes into areas which group UnhackTheBrain is interested in; in particular the inclusion of his religion/race in the articles published about him affecting the perpetuation of racial stereotypes. There is more interesting stuff in the study but since your mind went blank & decided to kill the messenger rather than using rational questions like what were the questions asked, I'll let you read the articles & do the work yourself (or not).
My "knee jerk" reaction was guided by the implications you drew from the responses to the  loaded question: "Who blames the Jews for the financial crisis?".  From this, so called statistical study, you seemed to draw the conclusion that: "the Democrats in charge" were shifting their policies in the Middle east based upon  anti-semantic leanings.  Sing and dance all you want, on the face of it that is horseshit.

Btw, just in case you care, i don't believe that Democrats are any more Anti-Semitic than Republicans, the Boston Review's so called study notwistanding.  To be confidant of those kind of correlations you need to conduct very careful scientific testing.  I seriously doubt that you can prove that kind of correlation simply by asking a loaded question.

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