One more for the Road .....



Maybe Saddam will meet his fate someday!

& he did
12/30/2006


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Mark de LA says
    I think that humankind could leave capital punishment to history if there were a fool-proof way of keeping a guilty person in a jail for the rest of his/her life to think about what they did & how humankind rejects it.  I think that it is fear of their escape, being set free by lawyers & judges, commando & terrorist attacks on the jails, ineptitude by jailers, etc. that drives the cry for capital punishment.
    & a little bloodthirstiness.

    But then, we are still evolving!

Mark de LA says
And from the dangerous ideas hot line comes Richard Dawkin's idea that it (bad behavior) is all faulty programming in the brain (DNA? or ?) & we should learn to fix it like a computer bug.   Such arguments might be convincing to a materialist or an evolutionist.
OTOH, I say that the main reason for incarceration is to protect society from having the perp repeat his offenses again, at least for a while.
OTOH2, a human appears to have the freedom to experience anything he wants to (however sordid) W/WO acknowledging that there are consequences provided by natural & human laws; argumentum ex TV series notwithstanding.

Mark de LA says
seth 2007-01-04 10:54:18 4593
Here is a sound byte goodie for those who think "The death of Saddam Hussein at ropes end brings a pleasure that is undeniable" ...

Actually WFB also wrote this column for Townhall.com website that is as interesting as the one you quoted.  Given that the noose broke his neck & probably severed his spinal cord from his brain I suspect that he faced the ultimate irony of having his last orgasm (as the lore goes) but not being able to feel it.


Seth says
The irony is that the sound of Sadam's neck breaking (hidden several times in the static of the sound byte above) hails the demise of the America's most effective defense (and ally) against the onslaught of the Radical Islamic Revolution.   Me thinks Bush would recite thousands of Hail Mary's if only he had such an effective defense to deploy and present to the American people next week.


Mark de LA says
seth 2007-01-04 12:15:35 4593
The irony is that the sound of Sadam's neck breaking (hidden several times in the static of the sound byte above) hails the demise of the America's most effective defense (and ally) against the onslaught of the Radical Islamic Revolution.   Me thinks Bush would recite thousands of Hail Mary's if only he had such an effective defense to deploy and present to the American people next week.

It would be sad indeed if America's most effective defense against Radical Islam is a despotic, murderous dictator who had a constant quest for the most imaginative & cruel methods of torture to keep himself in power. Uggg! IMHO we should keep looking for something else.

Seth says
Point is that there was a strong man in power heading a secular government sustaining and defending itself and not allowing a breeding ground for terrorists.  That is the essence of the administration's definition of victory.   Would that we could roll back time to 2003 and not depose that government which we seek today.  Alas there is no time machine ... yet  it is high time that we realized that there is no short term solution ... the natural balance of power in the Middle East has been altered.  The Iraq Study Group's solution of a timed withdrawal allowing the region to seek its own new balance of power, however embarrassing to Bush, still remains the best way forward out of the violence.  Yet that single channel of a man cannot contemplate it.  Instead he will ask us to sacrifice more of our children and more of our wealth to his ego.  Such is the disadvantage of a "single man" deciding such a difficult and complex matter.

Mark de LA says
You seem to forget that there are/were 3 branches of the US government; most of whom agreed with the invasion given the same information at the time. Seth, your Bush hatred is still showing. Your position is similar to the appeasers who in WW-II wanted to ignore Hitler & the emperor/god of Japan. Was it worth the 100X number of deaths in this current war to not have the Germans & the Japanese running our lives today ? Was it worth the 140,414 who died in the Civil War to free the slaves ?


Mark de LA says
uri http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004615.html

Seth says
M 2007-01-04 13:59:56 4593
You seem to forget that there are/were 3 branches of the US government; most of whom agreed with the invasion given the same information at the time. Seth, your Bush hatred is still showing. Your position is similar to the appeasers who in WW-II wanted to ignore Hitler & the emperor/god of Japan. Was it worth the 100X number of deaths in this current war to not have the Germans & the Japanese running our lives today ? Was it worth the 140,414 who died in the Civil War to free the slaves ?
You got your contexts all jumbled up. Your problem with applying that tired appeasement cliche is that in the current context, Bush is the aggressor.  The other branch of our government (Congress) would not have authorized the invasion had it have been told the truth that was known to the administration.  Your analogous comparisons do not match.  Btw, i make no apologies for my distaste for Bush. 

Seth says
What you should be comparing is the total deaths of 9-11 to the US soldiers who have died as a result of the invasion of Iraq.  Its like sombody shoots off your foot so you get in a fight with somebody else and loose both of your arms.  Smart ... real smart

Mark de LA says
SOS  - I had hope for 2007, but .....

Mark de LA says
In case you missed it here is an amusing viewpoint on Saddam's hanging from Dennis Miller's Real Speech video on fox news. Hope the link works.


Mark de LA says
And here is a column by Charles Krauthammer which pretty much sums up it's title: Shiite Happens !

Mark de LA says
source: ... It was rumored, in 1946, that the hangman in Nuremberg adjusted the nooses of some of the condemned to magnify the pain of suffocation. Such sadism was not called for then and is not called for now. But if fornication is wrong, there is no denying that it can bring pleasure. The death of Saddam Hussein at rope's end brings a pleasure that is undeniable, and absolutely chaste in its provenance. -WFB

...
I guess the whole sentence is too well-chiselled for the dull brain of a liberal. He is saying it is wrong, but some things bring pleasure that are wrong. The hanging is wrong but OK because of what Saddam did to get there.


Mark de LA says
seth 2007-01-06 11:41:55 4593
M 2007-01-06 11:09:12 4593
In case you missed it here is an amusing viewpoint on Saddam's hanging from Dennis Miller's Real Speech video on fox news. Hope the link works.
it doesn't
You have to wade through the commercial & the intro. It works on both FF & IE7. You may need flash. What was your experience like ?

Seth says
M 2007-01-06 13:09:56 4593
seth 2007-01-06 11:41:55 4593
M 2007-01-06 11:09:12 4593
In case you missed it here is an amusing viewpoint on Saddam's hanging from Dennis Miller's Real Speech video on fox news. Hope the link works.
it doesn't
You have to wade through the commercial & the intro. It works on both FF & IE7. You may need flash. What was your experience like ?

comes to screen that looks like this screen print with no recource.  Iow, there is something in your cookies thatv allows you to experience that url quite differently than someone who doesn't hang out with the fox news crew ...
... perhaps it has a liberal filter

Mark de LA says
Is it the same if you just go to the front page of foxnews.com and click on Miller's video there ?

Seth says
M 2007-01-06 13:31:08 4593
Is it the same if you just go to the front page of foxnews.com and click on Miller's video there ?
Nope ... but of course now that i have once clicked on the video and have foxes cookie, my expereice is now the same as yours.  This is, of course, a pervision of the URI ... like foxnews cares. 

I like Miller's observation that the event became kind of youtubie at the end .  Those who deplore this should remember that Sadam was one of the formost pioneers of the snuff movie in Iraq.  How did you like my composition of the actual snuff sound byte above ?

Mark de LA says
Your snuff movie wasn't that clear as to what the noises were.

Seth says
M 2007-01-06 14:14:28 4593
Your snuff movie wasn't that clear as to what the noises were.
Yep ... i was assuming that you had observed the original cell phone movie at google video ... thanks boingboing.  I just gave you the jucy tid bits of the final solution so that you could fondel them with your ears ... as per WFB suggestion of taking pleasure, but perhaps some sound editing is in order.


Seth says



Seth says
Here we see it on ESPN url http://www.glumbert.com/media/espn

Mark de LA says
I can't exactly put my finger on why, but I am amused by the fact that when they hanged his half-brother, convicted in the same trial, his head came off!


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