Seth's Combative Node

seth 2006-10-21 10:18:48 3635
Let it be noted here for the historical record that Seth spent several hours taking pictures of third streets for Mark's initiative here.  He (I) did that in the spirit of intellectual cooperation towards a common goal.  This is one of many such cooperative efforts that he (I) have made.  Let it be known that he was absolutely disappointed in the total lack of cooperation he got in return for his initiatives (reading for the truth, etc).  Let it be a lesson for those who naively think that cooperation with all individuals necessarily is a two way street.  What actually happens is that some people simply will not engage in cooperative action with you.  It does not matter whether they are your brother.  Something in their make up prevents them from growing from a i-win-you-loose to a i-win-you-win type of cooperation.  Hopefully evolution will select against these kind of people and our culture will eventually learn how to avoid zero sum games.  Hopefully that evolution will happen before we blow each other up. 
This belongs here & not where it came from.

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Comments


Mark de LA says
That s/b flushgov.net

Seth says
Mark 2006-10-21 10:35:01 4725
get to the point.
Point is that i have cooperated with your initiatives, yet you do not cooperate with mine. 

Mark de LA says
I have learned in my substantial years that just because one floats an idea or runs something up the flag-pole does not mean that anyone else will salute it!  In fact it seems as if fbi itself is such an example.




Mark de LA says
Your unartistic pronoun confusion, Seth, is duly noted.

Mark de LA says
win-win is artful, but still an oxymoron

Mark de LA says
SOS - more slogans and buzzwords: zero-sum game, win-win. I am not one of your groupies who is confined to your definitions of such PC words & thoughts. I use my own brain. You waste a lot of time & life arguing about arguing - get to the point.

Seth says
Mark 2006-10-21 10:54:18 4725
seth 2006-10-21 10:44:26 4725
Mark 2006-10-21 10:35:01 4725
get to the point.
Point is that i have cooperated with your initiatives, yet you do not cooperate with mine. 

So where is the deficit at this moment.  I think that I explained my lack of enthusiasm on most of them a long time ago. Provide links, I don't want to hunt for them.
And based upon what do i have any expectation of cooperation should i put more work into this? 

Mark de LA says
    You have only my word that I will give them another look.  I have spent a great deal of time (> 1 yr) blogging since fbi started. I have recently gone into a Autumn-like period of looking for the fruits of the past effort.  So far I haven't found much that justifies the time invested.  Most of the questions posed in the political realm & others like the climate stuff can't be answered by sitting at home & surfing the web for fodder (otherwise there would be no controversy).  The RWG can still get my juices flowing, but is an abysmal waste of time.  It is sort of like a gambling or crack addiction!
    I am more inclined to use the medium (kudos to the  on that)  to work on projects that are outside the political & traditional blog areas.  The one project that is interesting to me in the political area is the flushgov.com.  It's too late for November - maybe even too late for 2008 to have any effect. My other projects are just collecting specs at the moment. For some strange reason a CyberMind for the internet (web 2.0 or beyond) is still inspiring to me.



Seth says
seth 2006-11-02 10:12:44 4725
M 2006-11-02 10:02:41 4725
... inappropriate politicizing about the Islam & ignoring truth & facts.
Mark, i had spent about a half hour composing that train of though which was absolutely in context of the item i posted it upon.  You have totally jumbeled it here.  Honest dialogue should have modicum of civility. You have done me wrong.  Would you have me do that to your comments?  Please restore my original comment and its original context. 
Or don't bother, i'll do it myself.  In the future please be more considerate of the messages here at fastblogit.  Especially complex stuctures which do not reposition well.  You can always give warnings.  Comments on your blog do stay there at your pleasure, but there is a civility of discourse that you have violated ... perhaps you understand it ... perhaps you do not.  I would like to call to your attention the Golden Rule.  Would you have had me totally jumbel your comments and destroy their content?

Seth says
M 2006-11-02 10:02:41 4725
... inappropriate politicizing about the Islam & ignoring truth & facts.
Mark, i had spent about a half hour composing that train of though which was absolutely in context of the item i posted it upon.  You have totally jumbeled it here.  Honest dialogue should have modicum of civility. You have done me wrong.  Would you have me do that to your comments?  Please restore my original comment and its original context. 

Mark de LA says
source: ...
seth 2006-11-02 09:46:30 4841 seth 2006-11-02 08:59:32 4841 M 2006-11-02 08:55:03 4841 Islam has the concept of the religious war. Christianity does not! Get your facts straight. Actually i have it on good authority ... source: William F BuckleyWhy is Islam burning bright? What on earth do they have that we don't get from Christ our King?  If what they want is a religious war, are we disposed to fight it? My point here is that this is a political movement for political purposes ... on both sides.  This is something new.  This wave of though has emerged since 9-11 ... it did not exist 10 years agao.  It is just now starting to develop to a full blume.  The west is starting to respond to the rhetoric from places like the Muslim Brotherhood ... source: WikipediaAs stated on its charter and its website, the Muslim Brotherhood seeks to install a just Islamic empire and a Caliphate across the muslim world, through stages designed to Islamicize targeted muslim majority nations by all lawful means available. ... then Bush picks it up and echo's it back ... source: BushYou see, the enemy has clearly stated they want us to retreat.  They want to topple moderate governments.  They want their extremism to become the philosophy of a governing structure that stretches from Indonesia to Spain.  It's called a caliphate.  That's what they've said.  Imagine a Middle East in which violent forms of extremists compete for power, moderate governments are overturned, oil-rich states are controlled by the radicals who will use the energy to create blackmail for the United States, and in the midst a country with a nuclear weapon that can't stand us -- 30 years from now, if that were to happen, people will look back and they'll say, what happened to that generation in 2006; how come they couldn't see the impending danger; how come they couldn't see the threat? Now when the US government sends American boys over there they will be fighting the Caliphate, not the spread of communism.  Wow, this is somthing that can now truly enflame the passions!  Fight the Caliphate !!!!Mark, it is not facts than need to be gotten straight ... it is not history that needs to be dredged up ... what we need is to be able to hear the practical message comming out of the mouths of our demigods.  Then once heard, reject it.  Reject it like the people of Germany should should have done when Hitler preached about evil Jews of Europe.  Instead replace that message with one that leads to peace.
... inappropriate politicizing about the Islam & ignoring truth & facts.

Mark de LA says
WFB does not speak for Christians, he speaks for himself about conservative issues!

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