iCasualties: OIF Iraqi Deaths

I think it would be a good idea to use this technology to plot a weekly Iraqi casuality graph.  The objective would be to track how the surge is reducing the violence in Iraq.   

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  1. body count
  2. surge
  3. tools
  4. php

Comments


Mark de LA says
I once investigated trying to get statistics on deaths from the government.  At that time it filled several DVD sized collection, cost large dollars to get & wasn't as timely as I would like. Good luck it is big business both for private & public enterprise.  One of the projects called HyPie in the last version of CyberMind had that idea for both mortality & the federal budget.

Seth says
M 2007-02-12 22:11:37 6050
You should also keep a count of ...[snip]
Yep, keeping track of what is changing by counting events is a valid mechinism of awareness.  I wish there were easily available tools such that given a database once could zoom any selection from the data and display it in a intutive manner.  We need such a web tool ... such a tool where it does not require one to be a webmaster knowing sql and php and css to deploy a graph. 

Seth says
Please stay on topic here ... this item is about applying a specific technology to graphically display civilian deaths in Iraq to track the success of the surge.  It is not intended to be a place to make political jabs.

Seth says
M 2007-02-14 13:54:31 6050
Good luck it is big business both for private & public enterprise. 
You actually already found the database that is required ... thanks again.

Mark de LA says
seth 2007-02-14 14:04:05 6050
M 2007-02-14 13:54:31 6050
Good luck it is big business both for private & public enterprise. 
You actually already found the database that is required ... thanks again.
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Seth says
M 2007-02-14 16:28:43 6050
seth 2007-02-14 14:04:05 6050
M 2007-02-14 13:54:31 6050
Good luck it is big business both for private & public enterprise. 
You actually already found the database that is required ... thanks again.
?
You were the one who refered me to the database ....
M 2007-01-28 07:17:31 4649
Apparently someone does keep count here. I recommend you test your self by guessing what the numbers were/are for American casualties last year (in the war) & other such numbers. Then follow the link & see how your opinions have been distorted by the mainstream media.

Seth says
M mark 2007-02-14 22:59:47
The one I was talking about is used by actuaries & can be obtained from the US government.
It might be interesting to compare insurance rates in Iraq to those in the US.  But the db you found is adequate for my purposes. 

Seth says
It looks like the "surge", or "law and order in Baghdad", is taking hold ...
source: chron.com
Civilian deaths in Iraq drop overnight: The number of Iraqi civilians killed in Baghdad's sectarian violence fell drastically overnight, an Iraqi military official said Friday, crediting the joint U.S.-Iraqi security operation that began in force just days ago.

It might just be that this week will hail the turn-around in this graph. Let us hope so, and let us hope that in the long run it will all have been worth it.

Seth says
Civilian deaths reported here increased dramatically in February and March and then dropped in April below the pre surge high of January.   The actual figures going into the graph as of 5/4/07 are shown below ... the left column is Iraq/military/police and the right column is civilians.  Obviously the military casualties dramatically increased because of increased engagement, the same thing happened with US casualties.



Seth says

1781 civilian deaths in May, a dramatic increase over April but nowhere near the peaks in February and March.  This increase was purchased at the cost of 124 deaths of American boys and girls.   If we count the surge as starting in February, that is 44 more deaths than before the surge.  ... so was the surge worth it as of now? ... you tell me.  


Mark de LA says
Human lives are either worthless (abortions) or priceless born people. Go figure.  Were the 100,000 killed in the atomic bombs worthless or priceless? History will have it's own take & that take may be right or wrong even thousands of years later. This item may be worthless or priceless in that same span of time.


Seth says
M 2007-06-01 12:37:31 6050
Human lives are either worthless (abortions) or priceless born people. Go figure.  Were the 100,000 killed in the atomic bombs worthless or priceless? History will have it's own take & that take may be right or wrong even thousands of years later. This item may be worthless or priceless in that same span of time.

if you want to follow that train of thought, please do so in another item.

Seth says
These casualtiy figures that i am tracking here are in no way normative or even advertised to be "the" definitive measure of Iraqi civilian casualties.  Here is some information from another souce ...
source: IraqSlogger
In spite of the continuing refusal of the Iraqi government to release casualty figures, the NYT obtained some data from an Interior Ministry source for the month of May, Oppel writes. The figures show a striking 70% increase in unidentified bodies recovered in Baghdad, up to 726 from 411 in April. At the same time, the data show a decline in "identifiable" deaths, from 495 in April to 344 last month. This suggests an increase in sectarian militia activity, but a likely decline in deaths from various bombing, shelling, and sniping attacks.

Seth says
There was a 36% drop in civilian casualties in June ... 1146 in June vs 1782 in May.  


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