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Islamic Supremacist Group Holds First U.S. Conference covered by Foxnews of no interest to CNN or apparently Google has only a few articles gleaned from the news stream - no newsfront.
"Hizb ut-Tahrir is one of the oldest, largest indoctrinating organizations for the ideology known as jihadism," Walid Phares, director of the Future of Terrorism Project at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, told FOXNews.com.
Phares said that Hizb ut-Tahrir, rather than training members to carry out terrorist acts like Al Qaeda, focuses instead on indoctrinating youths between ages of 9 and 18 to absorb the ideology that calls for the formation of an empire — or "khilafah" — that will rule according to Islamic law and condones any means to achieve it, including militant jihad.
Wikipedia on the group Hizb ut-Tahrir is here.
Hizb ut-Tahrir America has announced that it will convene a Khilafah Conference on 19th July 2009. The venue is Hilton Oak Lawn9333 S. Cicero ave, Oak Lawn, IL 60453. Further details can be obtained from the official conference website. Conference Trailer:
The United States Government is continuing to monitor Hizb ut-Tahrir. Despite the statements of governments of the region, the United States has found no clear ties between Hizb ut-Tahrir and terrorist activity. Hizb ut -Tahrir has not been proven to have involvement in or direct links to any recent acts of violence or terrroism. Nor has it been proven to give financial support to other groups engaged in terrorism. Because of that, it falls outside the definitions used by the United States and others to designate a terrorist group.
Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami (Islamic Party of Liberation) a radical Islamic political movement that seeks 'implementation of pure Islamic doctrine' and the creation of an Islamic caliphate in Central Asia. The group's aim is to resume the Islamic way of life and to convey the Islamic da’wah to the world. The ultimate goal of this secretive sectarian group is to unite the entire ummah, or Islamic world community, into a single caliphate. The aim is to bring the Muslims back to living an Islamic way of life in 'Dar al-Islam' [the land where the rules of Islam are being implemented, as opposed to the non-Islamic world] and in an Islamic society such that all life's affairs in society are administered according to the Shariah rules.

Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) has long accused Hizb ut-Tahrir of links with separatist fighters and alleged Arab mercenaries combating Russian troops in the breakaway republic of Chechnya. It claims the group was recently joined by members of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), a radical Central Asian-based Islamic organization. The IMU is linked to the Taliban religious militia and was also routed during the US-led military campaign in Afghanistan.
In February 2003, the Russian Supreme Court put Hizb ut-Tahrir and 14 other groups on a list of banned terrorist organizations. A month before, Hizb ut-Tahrir was outlawed in Germany on charges of anti-Semitism and anti-Israeli propaganda.
In June 2003 Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) arrested 121 illegal immigrants suspected of having ties with Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami. The arrests -- the largest swoop yet on the organization within the CIS -- were conducted on 6 June 2003 at a Moscow research plant where the suspects were reportedly hiding from police and immigration authorities. Among the the detainees were Alisher Musayev of Kyrgyzstan and Akram Jalolov of Tajikistan, whom the FSB suspects of being the leaders of the dismantled cell. Moscow media reports said hand grenades, explosives, and ammunition were found on both men, as well as Islamic propaganda leaflets. The FSB said the arrests had only uncovered the tip of the iceberg and claimed Hizb ut-Tahrir has a network of cells covering all of Russia. Most of the detainees were Central Asians, although there were some Slavs and Arabs among them.



You deliberately contradict foxnews.
More to the point is: are you afraid of this group? Do you not, as i do, feel confident that the American people will choose our own values rather than theirs?


Before you completely bury your head in the sand


Personally i don't think it is possible to solve the Middle East war with Islamo-Facists. These people are not going to cooperate. They need to be isolated from those people who will cooperate. We need some anti ideals that make the ideals they espouse look weak and crumbel in the minds of the peoples living in the Middle East.
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The ideal that cuts through to the heart of the problem is tolerance.
Before you completely bury your head in the sand


You deliberately contradict foxnews.
More to the point is: are you afraid of this group? Do you not, as i do, feel confident that the American people will choose our own values rather than theirs?



HT boasts a chilling list of murderers among its graduates, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi,
Asif Muhammad Hanif, a British man who blew himself up outside a bar in Tel Aviv, killing four people (including himself) and wounding more than 50; and Omar Bakri Mohammed, a radical cleric currently banned from Britain who praised the 9/11 attacks, raised funds for Hezbollah and Hamas and called for attacks on the Dublin airport because U.S. troops transfered there on their way to Iraq.

Sheikh Abdul Qadeem Zalloom, the former global leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir, says anyone who rules by a non-Islamic system should “either retract or be killed . . . even if this led to several years of fighting and even if it led to the killing of millions of Muslims and to the martyrdom of millions of believers.”
Hizb ut-Tahrir's official ruling on the permissibility of hijacking planes says, “If the plane belongs to a country at war with Muslims, like Israel, it is allowed to hijack it, for there is no sanctity for Israel nor for the Jews in it.”
And one of the organization's more recent leaflets, published in March, calls for the declaration of “a state of war against America.”
What makes this all so much more horrifying is that this radical jihadi organization, which the Anti-Defamation League says is “banned in several Arab and Central Asian countries, as well as Germany and Russia,” has managed to make dupes of the State Department terror-watchers—and the rest of us—by keeping itself off their list.


What would you have thought about the story if it had been a group of white supremacists some of whom had a history of joining outlawed neo-Nazi groups?


Put simply, Hizb ut-Tahrir serves as an ideological incubator that radicalizes Muslims, some of whom go on to join Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. Its roster of notorious alumni includes 9/11 Mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammad and former Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi. Its leaders have urged Muslim governments to hinder international war efforts against radical Islam, and its literature has defended jihad as “legal, an obligation…the apex of Islamic ethics.” An official organization leaflet published in March called for the declaration of “a state of war” against the United States.
He added that unlike terror networks’ use of flagrantly illegal attacks, groups like Hizb ut-Tahrir exploit Western societies’ legal protections to further their cause. “The [Muslim] Brotherhood, with Saudi help (and now Hizb is joining the party), have deeply infiltrated the country and brought up two generations of activists in American universities. They are very organized and very disciplined,” McCarthy explained. “Besides not getting enough of our attention, the Constitution is their shield. It's no problem going after people who blow stuff up; but sophisticated advocacy -- cloaked in religion -- of overthrowing the U.S. system gets double-barrel First Amendment cover.”

That said now, it should also be said that the Tahrir might just be more of a threat to our way of life than Al Qaeda, but their methods are peaceful and if they remain so, they are protected by our bill of rights. We should not compromise our own liberties and rights to fight them. Rather we should shed light on their activities (as you and fox news have done) and strengthen our own Liberties and have faith that our way of life will survive theirs.
One thing was strange in the interview/exchange was that jihad & it's meaning was based on the circumstances (according to the caller). So that presumably, HT could change their peaceful declaration to something else if the situation warranted as apparently some went over to Al Qaeda & did. When does Islamic supremacist propaganda turn into more than just propaganda? What is the tipping point? There is good cause for Vigilance in this matter.
That said now, it should also be said that the Tahrir might just be more of a threat to our way of life than Al Qaeda, but their methods are peaceful and if they remain so, they are protected by our bill of rights. We should not compromise our own liberties and rights to fight them. Rather we should shed light on their activities (as you and fox news have done) and strengthen our own Liberties and have faith that our way of life will survive theirs.
One thing was strange in the interview/exchange was that jihad & it's meaning was based on the circumstances (according to the caller). So that presumably, HT could change their peaceful declaration to something else if the situation warranted as apparently some went over to Al Qaeda & did. When does Islamic supremacist propaganda turn into more than just propaganda? What is the tipping point? There is good cause for Vigilance in this matter.
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