Politics = RWG

About: william f. buckley jr. on iraq on national review online

My impression is in the title of this item. Buckley left out of his considerations the segment known as the 4th estate & particularly that part I call the M$M.  He also left out the blogosphere which has an effect on the M$M to accelerate issues to a critical mass.  Can media distortion by either side win the day? If so is it a WIN at all?
My question to the left-wing of our political spectrum:
Is it worth destroying America & the presidency just to win a power struggle? Wouldn't a liberal president want the same power ?

Consider what you have left if you win! A party that is just negative will not rule forever & may never rule at all!  Are these what you want to preside over if you win?
 



Tags

  1. rwg
  2. politics
  3. iraq
  4. partisanship
  5. ruin
  6. gop
  7. dictatorship

Comments


Mark de LA says


Seth says
Well we all know that the most efficient form of government is a dictatorship ... no disputes, no dissent ... everybody backing the party line.  But in America we have this  pesky little concept called government of the people, for the people, and by the people.  For a leader to be effective in today's America he (or she) must capture the hearts and minds of its people.  Now, we the people have lost confidence that the government is leading in the right direction ... rather it has lead us into foreign adventurism.   Personally i'm looking forward to OBama, perhaps he can lead us in a sane direction and eliminate all this Congressional sniping.  That sniping simply does not exist where you have a government that is in tune with its poeple. 

Mark de LA says
As long as your side is winning or in power everything is good!  Using Seth's word-of-the-day "pesky" - it's that pesky bunch of people who disagree that makes it a RWG.  There are plenty of people who would not like Obama or any liberal in office. Try getting around that without an RWG.  What does Obama stand for that is positive?

Seth says
A person with integrity will not get behind a policy that he (or she) strongly believes is wrong.  Are you implying that they should not act upon their strongly beliefs just because of some mystical campaign against RWG?  I really do not get this campaign you have with this  RWG.  Whether you believe that Bush should be stopped or supported, it still seems that advocating that a person should suppress their strongly held beliefs just for the sake of unity (or some fear of being called RWG), is simply political nonsense.

Seth says
source: ...
Is it worth destroying America & the presidency just to win a power struggle?
It is not to win the struggle!  It is to stop Bush's disasterous foreign policy mistakes and deceit of the American people

Mark de LA says
Well, this is looking like the problem with the Golden Rule - i.e. who goes first!  But then that is still the RWG.  I call the RWG on myself as much as others. My conclusion in the title is just that. If we talk politics then it's the RWG. So maybe we should not talk politics.


Mark de LA says
seth 2007-04-20 09:42:09 6912
A person with integrity will not get behind a policy that he (or she) strongly believes is wrong.  Are you implying that they should not act upon their strongly beliefs just because of some mystical campaign against RWG?  I really do not get this campaign you have with this  RWG.  Whether you believe that Bush should be stopped or supported, it still seems that advocating that a person should suppress their strongly held beliefs just for the sake of unity (or some fear of being called RWG), is simply political nonsense.
The RWG is simply programmed brain machinery.  If we (humans) are ever to get past the machinery to cooperative-harmonious living with eachother we will have to surpass this RWG piece of shit in evolution!

Seth says
M 2007-04-20 10:27:51 6912
seth 2007-04-20 09:42:09 6912
A person with integrity will not get behind a policy that he (or she) strongly believes is wrong.  Are you implying that they should not act upon their strongly beliefs just because of some mystical campaign against RWG?  I really do not get this campaign you have with this  RWG.  Whether you believe that Bush should be stopped or supported, it still seems that advocating that a person should suppress their strongly held beliefs just for the sake of unity (or some fear of being called RWG), is simply political nonsense.
The RWG is simply programmed brain machinery.  If we (humans) are ever to get past the machinery to cooperative-harmonious living with eachother we will have to surpass this RWG piece of shit in evolution!
Yeah sure, but you are only calling RWG against those on the other side of your partisan leanings ... as such that is just another cheep trick.  You call it on the other side when they make legitimate arguments as if to excuse your lack of a rejoiner.  I will start taking your RWG stuff seriously when you start standing outside of the partisan dimension, and not just using it as a move in the game itself. 

Mark de LA says
seth 2007-04-20 15:00:27 6912
M 2007-04-20 13:52:33 6912
Well, this is looking like the problem with the Golden Rule -
Well the loopholes in the Golden Rule are big enough to drive a mac truck through, but that is another story.  We need government, hense we need politicians, and citizens need to involve themselves with such matters.  But it doesn't need to totally deteriorate like it has in Washington recently.  Me thinks these problems have solutions short of rewiring basic human behavior.
Nice! come up with one!

Mark de LA says
Apparently what we left behind is crude politics:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/iraqi-court-sentences-sunni-vp-death-17193947#.UEyvAFGz7a8
...
Maybe still a civil war, maybe not. Cozy up to Iran & see what they get, eh?


Mark de LA says
Things still yet to be dissolved are revenge!
Julius Caesar, Act III, scene 1.
Anthony:
       "O, pardon me, thou bleeding piece of earth,
  That I am meek and gentle with these butchers!
  Thou art the ruins of the noblest man
  That ever lived in the tide of times.
  Woe to the hand that shed this costly blood!
  Over thy wounds now do I prophesy,--
  Which, like dumb mouths, do ope their ruby lips,
  To beg the voice and utterance of my tongue--
  A curse shall light upon the limbs of men;
  Domestic fury and fierce civil strife
  Shall cumber all the parts of Italy;
  Blood and destruction shall be so in use
  And dreadful objects so familiar
  That mothers shall but smile when they behold
  Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war;
  All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
  And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
  With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
  Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
  Cry  'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;
  That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
  With carrion men, groaning for burial."



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