YouTube - The Jews Took No One's Land


This is a very well done propoganda piece.  Me thinks that those people who claim that Palestine was "practically deserted" should go find the populations of the cities of Haifa, Kaisariyeh, and Jaffa in the early 1940s.  And while your at it get some data on all of those other little villiages seen in the old pre WWII maps of Palestine.

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Comments


Seth says
I found this propoganda piece over at Pat Dollards blog, and commented as above, but it wil probably be rejected like my last comment.  Some people want only to hear one side of the story.

Mark de LA says
The Middle East is probably modern mankind's most complicated situation to resolve & yet with the Golden Rule the situation is rather simple. (Most Wars are)  If as some claim all religions have the principle of the Golden Rule within them, then religion should be simple to rule out. A reframe like "It's not about religion" spread far & wide from the smooth lips of Obama should work.The problem should resolve to land allocation & socio-economics.  No religion should want dominate a people as that is against the Golden Rule. In the case of economics land should be apportioned according to the best use for the different cultures of the region for economic use & to satisfy the spiritual cultures of the region.  In fact, were the cultures of the region to implement threefoldness it would amaze the World as a reference example of how to solve a lot of mankind's problems. Perhaps the Middle East is an excellent place to begin the experiment as it has the most need & there are a lot of nomadic/displaced & unemployed people there & maybe a scarcity of land.

Mark de LA says
...& the UN has to stop being an authority of any value in declaring the existence of states & boundaries.


Seth says
MR 2009-05-19 10:52:27 7085
The Middle East is probably modern mankind's most complicated situation to resolve & yet with the Golden Rule the situation is rather simple. (Most Wars are)  If as some claim all religions have the principle of the Golden Rule within them, then religion should be simple to rule out. A reframe like "It's not about religion" spread far & wide from the smooth lips of Obama should work.The problem should resolve to land allocation & socio-economics.  No religion should want dominate a people as that is against the Golden Rule. In the case of economics land should be apportioned according to the best use for the different cultures of the region for economic use & to satisfy the spiritual cultures of the region.  In fact, were the cultures of the region to implement threefoldness it would amaze the World as a reference example of how to solve a lot of mankind's problems. Perhaps the Middle East is an excellent place to begin the experiment as it has the most need & there are a lot of nomadic/displaced & unemployed people there & maybe a scarcity of land.
Tell it to Netanyahu who just added the extra condition that the Palestinians must accept Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.  Some commentators think that the change of wording, emphasizing "Jewish" may be another new sticking point. 

Mark de LA says
seth 2009-05-19 09:21:10 7085
Yesterday, Obama said to Netanyahu with no mincing of words ..
source: Obama to Netanyahu
settlements have to be stopped
Obama.
Yep, & the rockets have to stop!
& the terrorist bombings have to stop!
& Hamas & Iran have to stop declaring that they will wipe Israel off the Map!
& ............

Seth says
Yesterday, Obama said to Netanyahu with no mincing of words ..
source: Obama to Netanyahu
settlements have to be stopped
Obama.

Mark de LA says
Nothing wrong with "Jewish" as it can be about religion or the people themselves.  Islam began with people who believed in the Jewish god, BTW. The only sticking point which is contrary to the Golden Rule, IMHO, is that the Jews often describe themselves as the chosen people. Chosen for what? - the holocaust & nomadic way of life? To ascribe to a people a peremptory hereditary right to property of some kind seems difficult to those of us today who were left out of that process. Basically, you have two camps: one believes that God gave something to them above any others & the other believes that they know the only God & He tells them what to do, i.e. eveyone else that is not of their religion is wrong. Seems like the eternal impasse. We do have to bring things forward to today & embrace the Golden Rule to break that impasse.


Mark de LA says
OTOH, Netanyahu probably emphasized a Jewish state because the Palestinians are likely to declare Palestine as an Islamic state: tit-for-tat.

Seth says
MR 2009-05-19 13:32:14 7085
seems like everything comes out underlined in red (;-((
Sometimes why you quote a comment where the author of the comment has inadvertently deleted an ending html tag, it will screw up the comments from that point on.  Like Kelly Clarkson says, "Don't Do That".  What i do in a case like that is simply not to quote ... i find myself doing that quite a lot on your comments. 

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